[Chris]

I don't mean to cast dispersions. I meant initially to have a discussion. I've never met anyone in person or conversed seriously with anyone who believes MMGW is firstly a religion and secondly a hoax. I have conversed and shared views with people who identify with a libertarian mind-set and these were intelligent and good people, willing to share views.

To cast MMGW in the role of a religion is strange to me and even borders on the ludicrous - like a joke you know. I have not come across this viewpoint outside of North America. This is not an aspersion, it is a fact. The concept may indeed be there but I have not personally come across it. For all I know, perhaps the Japanse (example) espouse those concepts, but I don't read the language, so, I have not come across it. To call it a hoax truly stretches my imagination but I'd like to know why people think this way? I am interested in a good-natured conversation, with good-natured cut and thrust on both sides, but keeping within the guidelines of tolerance. We will not solve anything here, but we can exchange views without beating the other one around the head. It is possible you know.

And yes, Bob Saunders, I agree with the comment on carbon credits. Not sure what you mean by 'ghg'?