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Old 08-11-2006, 03:30 PM
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"Security is expected to intensify in U.S. airports with airline passengers facing a double-screening process, random strip searches and full body cavity searches, the head of the airline industry's largest group said. The extra screening is designed to keep passengers from carrying aboard any liquids that might be fashioned into explosives..."
random strip searches and body cavity searches? that breaches the US constitution and will never be allowed in the US except on prisoners.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:35 PM
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America needs another era of hysteria, it seems that nothing left to terrorize people now, so bottles with water are considered as bombs now. With the money that terrorists have, many of them receive it from governments, they can blow any airplane everywhere, we are living in 21st centuries, the era of technologies is knocking on our doors.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:11 PM
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Yesterday we had a bottle of juice and a bottle of water with us. No-one tried to stop us from taking this on the aircraft. I see in the DR1 news today that this thing applies to all liquids, unless you have a child travelling with you.

This thing is unworkable I think...
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:35 PM
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random strip searches and body cavity searches? that breaches the US constitution and will never be allowed in the US except on prisoners.
Check again..

NEW YORK (AP) -- A federal appeals court Friday upheld the constitutionality of the city's random police inspections of subway riders' bags.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/A...-Searches.html

So get ready for, Hey you! strip and squat down!, now spread those cheeks wide, and cough!...
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:31 PM
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SDQ was very quiet today, and the security seemed to be very friendly
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:54 PM
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The "plot" that was alledgedly uncovered is nothing but a fear mongering distraction from actual events.
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:22 AM
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The "plot" that was alledgedly uncovered is nothing but a fear mongering distraction from actual events.
Fortunately, people who think like you do are in the minority.
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Old 08-12-2006, 12:20 PM
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Fortunately, people who think like you do are in the minority.
Madsen was a Senior Fellow of the Electronic Privacy Information Center.[3] He was a communications security analyst with the National Security Agency in the 1980s, and an intelligence officer in the US Navy. He has testified on numerous occasions before the US Congress.

Aug. 11, 2006 -- UPDATED. According to knowledgeable sources in the UK and other countries, the Tony Blair government, under siege by a Labor Party revolt, cleverly cooked up a new "terror" scare to avert the public's eyes away from Blair's increasing political woes. British law enforcement; neo-con and intelligence operatives in the United States, Israel, and Britain; and Rupert Murdoch's global media empire cooked up the terrorist plot, liberally borrowing from the failed 1995 "Oplan Bojinka" plot by Pakistan- and Philippines-based terrorist Ramzi Ahmad Yousef to crash 11 trans-Pacific airliners bound from Asia to the United States. In the latest plot, it is reported that liquid bombs were to be detonated on 10 trans-Atlantic planes outbound from Britain to the United States.

British and American authorities permitted a man with a liquid bomb to board a U.S.-bound flight in Heathrow on Aug. 6 -- the pilot foiled secret UK-US attempt to hype an incident en route to or at Boston Logan.

The London terror plan was "known" last Sunday by British and American authorities, according to the Indian press. American Airlines flight 109 from London Heathrow to Boston boarded a family of five, however, after the plane left Heathrow authorities determined that the father appeared on a British suspect list drawn up after the 7/7 London transit attacks. At first, the pilot was instructed to fly all the way to Boston where U.S. authorities could claim credit for apprehending the suspect. However, the pilot, fearing for the safety of his passengers and crew, refused and quickly returned to Heathrow without informing the passengers. Once on the ground, it was discovered that the male had in his carry-on baggage the type of combination liquid explosive and electronic device now being hyped by the British and American media.

British sources report that the reason for the delay in informing the airlines and traveling public about the liquid bomb on the American flight was to maximize the beneficial political impact for Blair and George W. Bush, both plummeting in the polls from the situations in Iraq and Lebanon.

Earlier this week, two employees of Murdoch's London tabloid, News of the World, were charged with hacking into the voice and text cell phone messages of three members of the staff of Clarence House, the residence of Princes Charles, William, and Harry. One of those charged with the wiretapping was Clive Goodman, the Royals editor of the News of the World. The same paper earlier tried to politically damage two anti-Iraq war British politicians -- Scottish Socialist Tommy Sheridan and Respect Party MP George Galloway. The paper charges that Sheridan was unfaithful to his wife by going to swinger's clubs. He won a quarter million dollar lawsuit against the paper. Galloway was confronted by Mazher Mahmood, an individual who uses the moniker "Fake Sheik," who posed as a wealthy Arab businessman and tried unsuccessfully to get Galloway to accept cash and make anti-Semitic remarks. In fact, Mahmood was and continues to be a reporter for News of the World, his continued employment approved by Murdoch. Goodman has merely been suspended by Murdoch but he has not been fired.



Murdoch uncovered Prince Charles-Gordon Brown plot to oust Blair. Phony terror plan cooked up to derail political coup plans.

However, what prompted Murdoch and Blair to hype a new global "terror" threat was what Murdoch learned from eavesdropping on the phone calls of Prince Charles' staff at the future king's office, home, and limousine. The eavesdropping revealed that Charles was working with Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown, who is to the left of Blair, to conduct the same type of political maneuver that John Major used to oust Margaret Thatcher from office. London's left-wing Mayor, Ken Livingston, was also in on the Charles-Brown plan and it was expected that in return for his support, Livingston would get a senior position in a Brown cabinet -- a development that sent shock waves through the neo-con circles in London, Washington, and Jerusalem, including British Home Secretary John Reid and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. The Charles-Brown plan was briefed by Blair to Bush during the former's recent visit to Washington. However, because the phony terror plot was known to both leaders -- they decided to be away on vacation when the terror plot was "uncovered." Bush is vacationing at his Crawford, Texas "ranch," while Blair is on vacation in Barbados, staying at Sir Cliff Richard's luxurious villa.

After Blair met with Bush in Washington, he flew to California where on July 30 he attended Murdoch's News Corporation private corporate executive conference at the posh Inn at Spanish Bay golf resort in Pebble Beach. Blair met with Murdoch, Israeli former Prime Minister Shimon Peres, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Newt Gingrich, and various Fox, Star, and Sky News executives. The final touches were agreed to by Blair and Murdoch on how the fake terror plot would play out in Murdoch's media empire.



Airline terror plot cooked up by Blair, Bush, and Murdoch to save Tony's political ass.

Blair told Bush that a Brown government would move to withdraw British troops from Iraq, break the "special relationship" with the Bush White House, and move closer to the European Union and the United Nations.

The Israeli attack on Lebanon created a rift within Blair's Cabinet with some former Blair loyalists signaling their support for the political coup against Blair. As a result, a suspect passenger was permitted to board an American aircraft at Heathrow with a liquid bomb to lay the groundwork for the media and travel hysteria five days later.

Final touches on fake terror plot were agreed to by Blair and Murdoch at July 30 News Corp/Fox VIP meeting at the Inn at Spanish Bay in Pebble Beach, California.

The wiretapping of Charles' messages also indicated that he has weighed in with various European royal families to discourage them from inviting Bush on state visits to their nations. This, reportedly upset the Bush and Blair regimes, who were working together to improve Bush's image in Europe. The White House's displeasure with the monarchies in Spain, Belgium, Sweden, Luxembourg, and Norway are a direct result of the Murdoch eavesdropping on Charles' staff.

Murdoch-Bush-Blair perception management hoax: Be afraid, be very afraid.

Not surprisingly, after Galloway tore into a Sky News reporter on a recent televised interview, The Sun, a Murdoch paper, is now reporting that one of the 24 British aircraft liquid bomber suspects now under arrest, Waheed Zaman, met with Galloway "many times." The paper quotes the sister of the suspect. A Galloway spokesman denies that Galloway knows the suspect. What is suspect is the Murdoch media empire that makes up news and commits illegal acts to provide cover for the false flag operations being conducted by Britain, the U.S., and Israel.

Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) agency has helped provide the cover story for the alleged liquid bombers. Working with British and U.S. intelligence, the ISI says it broke up the plot after arresting terrorist suspects in Lahore and Karachi. However, the ISI claims that the men were affiliated with the Kashmiri terrorist group Lashkar-e-Toiba, a group that is run and funded by the ISI itself.

The disclosure of the Charles-Brown plot has already created a backlash from the neo-cons. The Murdoch media is already floating the rumor that Home Secretary Reid is now Blair's chosen successor, while there will be an effort to scandalize Charles in an effort to convince the British public that it would be best to skip over him and have Prince William assume the throne upon Queen Elizabeth's death or abdication.

British commentators are noting that it is Reid, a noted neo-con, who is chairing national security "Cobra" meetings in Blair's absence. Blair bypassed Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott and many political observers believe that Prescott was passed over because of evidence that he was involved in supporting the Charles-Brown coup. Prescott chaired Cobra meetings in the wake of the July 7, 2005 (7/7) London transit bombings.

Meanwhile, Republican governors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mitt Romney used the occasion to boost their sagging popularity by placing their states' National Guardsmen at major airports in their states.
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Old 08-16-2006, 09:52 AM
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Yesterday, flying from another island back to the DR, we run into the new airline regulations.

The regulations were clearly posted on a board outside the security checkpoint. They said no juices, no shampoos and all of the normal stuff .. .. but they also said you may have juice and babyfoods if you are travelling with a small child. All normal. So I was travelling with a 5 year old and we had a bottle of unsweetened orange juice for the flight. The small airline does not provide beverage service.

The security guard (Let's call her Helga!) pounced on the juice quite forcefully and started waving it around as if she had discovered the Hope Diamond. We also had as a snack for the little one, half a hotdog and a few cold fries. So, the snack went through, but not the juice. I told her that we may take a juice for this small child as the airline does not provide anything to drink. She tossed the juice into the trash and told me to buy another one inside at the gate. I told her there are no unsweetened juices inside, only sodas and water. Helga kicked the trash can a time or two and said that that is really not her problem. I asked her to define 'small child' and she said 'no juice for anybody'.

In the mean time, I forgot to pack my bathroom bag into checked luggage and it was in my carryon bag. We walked through with scissors, nailfiles and everything else banned, with a half a hotdog and some cold fries (could have been explosives in a hotdog bun), but they confiscated the sugar free juice.

On going into the gate area, I realized that Helga's sister owns the little concession stand inside the gate area. On the flight, we had a little 2 year old crying of thirst, as his parents were watching what was happening with me, and ditched everything drinkable for the little one.

I think I'm going to buy a fast boat!
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:16 AM
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sounds like they were on a power trip.
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