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Old 05-27-2008, 12:40 PM
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I am weighing in here, because I go often for one and I go out every chance I get to see acts.

I have been to Dolce a few times. Onc ethey had a singer there...someone no one ever heard of...

they dont seems to post who is playing unless it is one of the trendy on line websites.

you see small bill board road signs for certain places all the time

You will never see and add for Dolce or ZOOM on a billboard or telephone pole...so good luck finding if some one good is playing there.

As much as it is true that there is a segment of dominican society that wont go to certain clubs no matter who is playing because of their reputation or that of the club.

if one were to actaully go to Pasion on a night where a big name was playing.( oh oh oh I have my hand up!!) one would rub shoulders with just about ever other segment of dominican society.

the club is packed with married couples from 25 to 60, family groups..middle class and up...because the poor cant afford the 300-1000 peso door charge.

believe me...you would NEVER notice it was a whore house...

How does someone who doesnt go there know what it is like when a big act goes?

I am sure it is the same for many people just like it is for me...it is JUST a pl;ace to dance and listen to the act... and if we need to say hello to the Chipos and AZB's and Hillbillies, ect ect of Santiago...we just have to figure we are gdoing it some other time...no problem....the stink washes off I am sure...

on another note...I know Dolce is small...did I say small...I ment SMALL.. and when that BIG act plays there..it will be sardine room only baby!!!!

and they have to kick the door charge up as well....

There will be no dancing at all is my guess when a big act plays there...

someone tell me I am full of "IT"...now

I have been to almost EVERY club in Santiago...I have eyes and ears...

I have a open mind as well........but I dont carry a silver spoon on my shoulder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Anna if you find Anthony Santos is playing at Ilusions...you WILL NOT BE A PUTA if you go listen to him there!!!!!

no matter what anyone else says.

but it might be a good idea when having tea with Leonels wife the next day, to not mention it...

bad bob
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Old 05-27-2008, 12:49 PM
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Robert we are not talking about Canada.


I think the point here is that people that had no clue where the whore houses are and have been to see a band and wish to share pictures or a video about the show, should not be bashed and therefore the threads get hijacked and the subject completely lost with the same old rants.
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whenn people come to america from any other country in the world....do they worry if then the uppity from the Hamptons will accept them??

I doubt it... they dont worry if the Greenwich CT tea club willlook down their noses at them...they dont care

it is vacation time and the getting has to be done while the getting is good.

they see the some singer they love playing is some roadside dive...they go see the show!!!!

they dont analyze how it fits into the minds of the Polo Club rich!!!!!

yes for the umpteenth time, there are places CERTAIN people wont go..

anyone from the Hamptons country club here to weigh in??

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Old 05-27-2008, 01:07 PM
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Okay, we get the point of being judged by where we are seen and with whom.

However, please keep in mind that some of best performers have performed their best performances at small "irregular" venues. Additionally, please remember some of the greatest jazz musicians (and others) got their start in houses of ill-repute.

So for all the snobs and the "holier-than-tho" self-adulators out there, thank you for the heads-up. But if I ever want to see an show, regardless of the venue, I shall, and without even a thought of how I might be perceived by others. Life's too short to worry about such trivial concerns.
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Old 05-27-2008, 01:14 PM
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whenn people come to america from any other country in the world....do they worry if then the uppity from the Hamptons will accept them??

I doubt it... they dont worry if the Greenwich CT tea club willlook down their noses at them...they dont care

it is vacation time and the getting has to be done while the getting is good.

they see the some singer they love playing is some roadside dive...they go see the show!!!!

they dont analyze how it fits into the minds of the Polo Club rich!!!!!

yes for the umpteenth time, there are places CERTAIN people wont go..

anyone from the Hamptons country club here to weigh in??

bad bob

I think that you and Anna really nailed it down to a T.

There are some people that live in the dominican republic and keep comparing tourists that visit for 1-2 weeks to expats/dominicans that live there 24x7. Talk of comparing apples to oranges.

So if I like a particular musician and he will ONLY be playing at PASION while I am there, I should not go because I worry about what a dominican/expat will think of me?. No way!. I do whatever I want to do as long as it is not againt the law or it does not affect anyone else. It is my vacation, my time and my money. F@ck everybody else!.

It does not make sense to compare a tourist visiting for 1-2 weeks with a dominican/expat living there 24X7. These 2 groups are facing an entirely different set of issues.

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Old 05-27-2008, 02:00 PM
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Oh god, you folks just can't live without your whorehouses. So please don't bore us with your stupid questions: what makes a dominican respectable? How can I meet a quality girl? Why middle class dominicans won't talk to me? blah blah blah.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:23 PM
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Oh god, you folks just can't live without your whorehouses. So please don't bore us with your stupid questions: what makes a dominican respectable? How can I meet a quality girl? Why middle class dominicans won't talk to me? blah blah blah.
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You're Off topic again!

We don't live there so allow us to be tourist without bashing us. If you're tired of answering stupid questions then don't. DR1 is supposed to be here to answer any questions about vacations and sharing those vacations with others as well as gathering info on living in the DR.

If you're bored take some time off.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:31 PM
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I think that you and Anna really nailed it down to a T.

There are some people that live in the dominican republic and keep comparing tourists that visit for 1-2 weeks to expats/dominicans that live there 24x7. Talk of comparing apples to oranges.

So if I like a particular musician and he will ONLY be playing at PASION while I am there, I should not go because I worry about what a dominican/expat will think of me?. No way!. I do whatever I want to do as long as it is not againt the law or it does not affect anyone else. It is my vacation, my time and my money. F@ck everybody else!.

It does not make sense to compare a tourist visiting for 1-2 weeks with a dominican/expat living there 24X7. These 2 groups are facing an entirely different set of issues.

Sholly
How can you tell the difference between an expat and a 2 week tourist? You can't. Just in the same way you can't differentiate between a thief in an Armani suit and a community activist in a pair of Timberland boots. It's all about prejudices. We all have them, it's just how we react to them. It is apple and oranges, but people have measuring sticks and measure everyone with the same stick.

As per doing what you want as long as it doesn't affect others? There is truth to that, but what you take for granted in your country of origin can be taken as an insult here (and vice versa) and most visitors either aren't aware or could care less of this. At the end of the day you (expat or tourist) are still a visitor. I ask, would you put your feet up on someone's table, even if you allowed yourself to do it in your own home? Probably not. So don't "put your feet up" in "my home."

There is also a double standards and superiority complexes associated with all of what you posters are commenting about, but that is for another thread and another time.




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Old 05-27-2008, 02:34 PM
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DR1 is supposed to be here to answer any questions about vacations and sharing those vacations with others as well as gathering info on living in the DR.
At times some of us forget what the boards are about. It's a two way street, but at the end of the day we are here to post about our experiences and know how so that it can help others.


Let's keep that in mind as we post.




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Old 05-27-2008, 03:31 PM
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whenn people come to america from any other country in the world....do they worry if then the uppity from the Hamptons will accept them??

I doubt it... they dont worry if the Greenwich CT tea club willlook down their noses at them...they dont care

it is vacation time and the getting has to be done while the getting is good.

they see the some singer they love playing is some roadside dive...they go see the show!!!!

they dont analyze how it fits into the minds of the Polo Club rich!!!!!

yes for the umpteenth time, there are places CERTAIN people wont go..

anyone from the Hamptons country club here to weigh in??

bad bob
Bob, you miss part of the point. You can go anywhere you want to at any time. No one is debating that.

But when you (not the 'you" you, but the generalized you) do go to, say, a whorehouse to see a band, it ends up being a reflection on ALL of us red-headed/fair-skinned Gringos, because it is US, the folks who live here 24/7, that have to live with the reputation that y'all on vacation create for us.

Tourist behavior makes it more difficult for residents, because we all ~look~ the same to Dominicans, MOL.
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