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Old 01-12-2009, 07:53 PM
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It is not accurate! Not even close.

1. Air costs are around $500. That is from Canada. Less from the USA Eastern.

2. If the kids (or adults) do not come here, the $500 and extras gets spent at home in the rich USA. Your DR friends get NOTHIING mountainannie!!!

3. When they come down, they load their luggage with thousands of dollars of good, medical, personal etc. If we listen to mountainannie that all stays in the USA.

Mountainannie has a right to her opinion. True. So do all the people who elected Bush. That does not make her right. Opinions are like a---ho---les everyone has one.

The simple truth is, thousands of people here thank God and their friends abroad for the blessings they receive! Do you?
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:56 PM
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It is not accurate! Not even close.

1. Air costs are around $500. That is from Canada. Less from the USA Eastern.

2. If the kids (or adults) do not come here, the $500 and extras gets spent at home in the rich USA. Your DR friends get NOTHIING mountainannie!!!

3. When they come down, they load their luggage with thousands of dollars of good, medical, personal etc. If we listen to mountainannie that all stays in the USA.

Mountainannie has a right to her opinion. True. So do all the people who elected Bush. That does not make her right. Opinions are like a---ho---les everyone has one.

The simple truth is, thousands of people here thank God and their friends abroad for the blessings they receive from these visiting teams!

And they go home and raise millions more for education and relief. Mountainannie would shut all of that down? Way to go…..
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:13 PM
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Are you a paying advertiser? You seem to feel the need to plug your business as often as possible...
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So cynical! You all come down and help all you can. Ignore the cynics and go and do your fellow man some good. I have seen teens come down, as well as adults, and they work hard and go back with a whole new understanding of the world. Tonight, 100's of millions around the world, have a roof, have clothing, have food, and education and medical care due to these people with crosses! They are not cynical (as you rich local gringos are) they are thankful! We have had teams stay at the Casa Blanca in Cabarete and we have seen them effected in many positive ways.
You're a local gringo with his own hotel aren't you? In the eyes of many you'd seem "rich" and to fit your own cynical stereotype.
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Opinions are like a---ho---les everyone has one.
Opinions are like "a lesbian ho"? Como?
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:30 PM
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It is not accurate! Not even close.

1. Air costs are around $500. That is from Canada. Less from the USA Eastern.

2. If the kids (or adults) do not come here, the $500 and extras gets spent at home in the rich USA. Your DR friends get NOTHIING mountainannie!!!

3. When they come down, they load their luggage with thousands of dollars of good, medical, personal etc. If we listen to mountainannie that all stays in the USA.

Mountainannie has a right to her opinion. True. So do all the people who elected Bush. That does not make her right. Opinions are like a---ho---les everyone has one.

The simple truth is, thousands of people here thank God and their friends abroad for the blessings they receive from these visiting teams!

And they go home and raise millions more for education and relief. Mountainannie would shut all of that down? Way to go…..
Perhaps you have a comprehension problem William. MountainAnne has done a lot of chariable work herself and lived on this island for many years. She is of the Quaker persuasion and as a journalist has show very good observation skills and insight. Perhaps you should read her blog and some of her article. So judgemental- you need to work on that.
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:37 PM
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. Opinions are like a---ho---les everyone has one.

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Aye Dios Mio.
What type of pastor are you that you talk about a holes?
Is that part of a pastor's vernacular?
What church would allow that?
I smell some fishy stuff here.
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:37 PM
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Perhaps you have a comprehension problem William. MountainAnne has done a lot of chariable work herself and lived on this island for many years. She is of the Quaker persuasion and as a journalist has show very good observation skills and insight. Perhaps you should read her blog and some of her article. So judgemental- you need to work on that.
how hypocritical and cynical some self proclaimed men of the cloth can be...and the language! What one thinks, and even says in private and among friends, is one thing but certainly not in a public forum!
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Opinions are like a---ho---les everyone has one.
Then again considering his other posts what do we expect! (not much really )
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:00 PM
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Thank you all for you input. This is exactally what I wanted to hear. Our church has gone on mission trips all over the world and realize the contradiction in what we are doing. We are doing it for spiritual, personal, and religious reasons. I think Chip hit the nail on the head with his post. Those of us who have gone on other trips talk and think about them constantly. Roast Goat head in Africa, Beef Tongue from a street vendor in Ecuador (bad idea) severe laceration and stitches in Nicaragua, and Vacation Bible School for a week in the rain in Beliz are some of the favorites.

Haitian Refugee??? I don't know where that came from, possibly it was, actually, out of thin air. The word our materials use is Batey, Maybe I'm thinking of Gaza. We know the Haitians we allowed, invited, to come work in the DR sugar industry. The sugar industry mechanized leaving lots of Haitians out of work. They don't want to go back to Haiti because it's worse there. They take what work they can get at slave wages. We will be building outhouses for families, and we have an M.D. and and R.N with us who will be doing medical stuff.


Please correct me if I'm wrong and give me any other insights. Don't go easy on me just because I'm a cross-wearer (checks ears for gold crosses).
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:04 PM
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Oh my, did I bring up a touchy topic??? So sorry.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:06 PM
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Your questions were fine, there are just some issues with one of the respondents
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Oh my, did I bring up a touchy topic??? So sorry.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:45 PM
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Don't go easy on me just because I'm a cross-wearer (checks ears for gold crosses).
Well, I'm Dominican and I'm not a big fan of your type of missionary.

For one thing, you knowingly are going to ridicule Dominican laws and institutions by supporting illegal immigration, and the fact that there are sectors within Dominican society that does that doesn't make it right or justify foreign intrusion into such matters.

And second, what skills are you going to be teaching those people? What good is building huts for people that need to be free rather than dependent on feel good foreigners?

Don't take this as an attack on you, but rather accept this as something to think about.

When you look into the eyes of those Haitians, ask yourself if you are simply giving them a fish so they can eat for a day and from your hands. Or, if you are teaching them how to fish so they can eat for the rest of their lives without anyone helping them.

Think about that when you see into the big black eyes of a small Haitian child that due to their innocence will grace you with a big warm smile.

Think about if you are doing more harm than good to those people and then think about if you are doing more harm than good to the host country.

-NALs

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