Miguel Tejada

[SKY]

To really understand what they may charge him with you would have to read his testimony. To prove perjury in a Federal Court they must convince a jury that he lied in his testimony on something that is material. Not some minor thing.

For example, if he said he did not send checks that they found signed by him that would be perjury. But if he said he sent the checks for something else and not for steroids, the government would have to prove he is lying and they were in fact for steroids. Not a given by far. Especially if it is his word against another.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Kyle

i would call it circumstantial..remember the guy stated he didn't actually see him use it so at this point he would be guilty of buying steriods not using them...

i know we're just splitting hairs...

Somehow I get the feeling that you're not really convinced, imagine a jury of his peers presented with all of the evidence - end result, it doesn't look good.

[SKY]

Originally Posted by Chip

Somehow I get the feeling that you're not really convinced, imagine a jury of his peers presented with all of the evidence - end result, it doesn't look good.

I think you need to read my previous post if you have not already. He said, she said does not fly well in court. If it ever gets there. They need more than one guy saying something that is ambiguous at best.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by SKY

I think you need to read my previous post if you have not already. He said, she said does not fly well in court. If it ever gets there. They need more than one guy saying something that is ambiguous at best.

You might need to study up on law a little. The guy Tejada wrote the checks to distributed drugs and they have proof he distributed steriods if not his confession. This is enough to show intent and people have gone to jail for many, many years for much more serious crimes - this is fact, not conjecture.

Nonetheless, I propose a friendly wager, a cold jumbo to the winner, assuming you can make it here to Santiago. BTW, I like the light.

[SKY]

You are on. I say he walks. This may take a few years though.

[A.Hidalgo]

Some of these guys are going down, if only to show that something seriously is being done to remedy the problem. If they cheated to perform better then they must face the tune.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by A.Hidalgo

Some of these guys are going down, if only to show that something seriously is being done to remedy the problem. If they cheated to perform better then they must face the tune.

Rather, if they lied to a Federal Grand Jury, they are going down - this is the main issue, really.

[A.Hidalgo]

Barry Bonds will lead the pack.....

[cobraboy]

The situation is simple:

-If they didn't take steroids or HGH, they would have no problem testifying to a Federal Grand Jury and saying so, knowing there is no evidence or witness.

-If they took steroids, they either have to fess up and suffer the damage to their public and professional reputation but suffering no problems with Federal indictments; or lie about it, keeping their public and professional reputation somewhat intact, but possibly suffering from Federal indictments...IF there is a paper trail and witnesses.

-Or, you could take the Roger Clements approach: sue the witness against you, thereby keeping the subject from being broached in a Congressional Committee without subpoena...which they would be reluctant to do outside of a Federal indictment (according to a criminal lawyer buddy...). However, there would be testimony down the road by the witrness.

Between the devil and the deep blue sea...

It'll get a LOT uglier before it gets prettier. I suspect, at the End of the Day, there will ultimately be several astericks tossed around because MLB will throw anyone under the bus, Bonds and Clements included, to keep their #1 most valuable asset: their Anti-Trust Exclusion.

Jose Canseco is looking more credible every day...

[miguel]

Botom line, the guy is a cheater and SHOULD be punished......Just like Clemens, Bonds and ALLLLL cheaters should!!.

He lied, lied and lied some more.

Trust me, they WILL make an example out of him!!. (At least I hope they do).

Show me ONE player who was hitting homers left and right, like there's no tomorrow, who was accused of using "the juice", who is STILL hitting them like there's no tomorrow?.