Dominicans Vs Alex Rod

Mr_DR · #1 10-14-2004, 04:24 AM

It looks like the marriage between A-Rod and Dominicans is over after Alex
declared himself as an American in the post season introduction in New York.

Don't feel hurt about this betrayal, this guy is just hungry for dollars, is running with a different crowd and is now trying to compete with Derek
Jeter on popularity and thinks that by saying he is only American should
be more to his advantage.

Be proud,
we still have Felix Sanchez.
Don't hate Alex, just feel sorry for him and wish him good luck but i better
not hear him say that he is more Dominican than Platanos when he is interviewed in DR.

deelt · #2 10-14-2004, 08:25 AM

What about his Dominicaness does he have to be proud of based on his experience? (Please do remember the value a strong male role model has on your development and sense of perspective).

A father who blatantly callously abandoned his mother in an unknown city for some hoochie back in NY nevr to be seen until...? A family that turned their back on his mother w/ kids when in need? His mother struggled counting dimes with him at the kitchen table for nightly tips as a waitress (and that was just her second job) to see if they could make ends meet in FL? Family members who now profess to be his best buddies and always thought of him? Oh really?

I know EXACTLY where he is coming from and I don't blame him. I know many professional Dominican-Americans that have realized the same thing and minimally associate themselves with being Dominican. One friend moved straight across the country to California to escape the abuses of those around her.

Felix Sanchez is Dominican by affiliation because he didn't grow up around them. Dominicans on the island love Dominican-Americans when it is convenient for them. When it is not, we are just a bunch of Dominicanyorks regardless of where you live in the states. Let's not forget that.

-D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_DR

It looks like the marriage between A-Rod and Dominicans is over after Alex
declared himself as an American in the post season introduction in New York.

Don't feel hurt about this betrayal, this guy is just hungry for dollars, is running with a different crowd and is now trying to compete with Derek
Jeter on popularity and thinks that by saying he is only American should
be more to his advantage.

Be proud,
we still have Felix Sanchez.
Don't hate Alex, just feel sorry for him and wish him good luck but i better
not hear him say that he is more Dominican than Platanos when he is interviewed in DR.

Mr_DR · #3 10-14-2004, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by deelt

What about his Dominicaness does he have to be proud of based on his experience? (Please do remember the value a strong male role model has on your development and sense of perspective).

A father who blatantly callously abandoned his mother in an unknown city for some hoochie back in NY nevr to be seen until...? A family that turned their back on his mother w/ kids when in need? His mother struggled counting dimes with him at the kitchen table for nightly tips as a waitress (and that was just her second job) to see if they could make ends meet in FL? Family members who now profess to be his best buddies and always thought of him? Oh really?

I know EXACTLY where he is coming from and I don't blame him. I know many professional Dominican-Americans that have realized the same thing and minimally associate themselves with being Dominican. One friend moved straight across the country to California to escape the abuses of those around her.

Felix Sanchez is Dominican by affiliation because he didn't grow up around them. Dominicans on the island love Dominican-Americans when it is convenient for them. When it is not, we are just a bunch of Dominicanyorks regardless of where you live in the states. Let's not forget that.

-D

I am not saying that he should be proud, is the hipocracy that he displayed when he used to say he was more dominican than the flag which made many
dominicans proud and crazy about him. Now these people feel betrayed because they think he coulded say he was a dominican american.

Felix had no reason whatsoever to represent the DR in the olympics but chose to do so. That is what i call a true orgulloso dominicano.

deelt · #4 10-14-2004, 09:49 AM

I hear you. Personally, I think he is battling with the love/hate relationship he actually has with the Dominican culture. This is something he needs to resolve. Felix Sanchez is an whole other ball game. I belive needs met timing and venue form him, but he is as much a Dominican-American as ARod just doesn't realize/verbalize it yet.

In the states, we are just beginning to have a political identity and a definition for ourselves. ARod is actually serving as a political catalyst to define ourselves as Dominican-Americans. I agree with that. The more we establish ourselves here the more we come to realize being Dominican vs Dominican American is a politically crucial and necessary difference, that needs to be made. I applaud ARod for taking that step.

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Originally Posted by Mr_DR

I am not saying that he should be proud, is the hipocracy that he displayed when he used to say he was more dominican than the flag which made many
dominicans proud and crazy about him. Now these people feel betrayed because they think he coulded say he was a dominican american.

Felix had no reason whatsoever to represent the DR in the olympics but chose to do so. That is what i call a true orgulloso dominicano.

Spirit7 · #5 10-15-2004, 01:34 PM

A-Rod said 'USA' as natural and normal as it should be for someone born and raised there and having lived most of his life in the USA. There is nothing wrong with that and by saying it he has not denied his Dominican heritage.
It's become a 'much ado about nothing' theme in the DR and at least kept us entertained with something for a couple of days.

Nina80 · #6 10-17-2004, 07:17 PM

I am sorry that you feel that way about Dominicans living back in the island. I understand your point but maybe the friends you have there are not the best ones. I know by experience that the friends that I left in SD will never be replaced by the new ones I made here. Maybe I sound kind of foolish, but maybe if you choose your friends in DR better, you'll have a better opinion.

Regarding Arod, he was born and raise here, everybody is making a big fuss about it.
he hasn't said that he hates SD or anything like that. Conformense con Felix Sanchez

ERICKXSON · #7 10-17-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nina80

I am sorry that you feel that way about Dominicans living back in the island. I understand your point but maybe the friends you have there are not the best ones. I know by experience that the friends that I left in SD will never be replaced by the new ones I made here. Maybe I sound kind of foolish, but maybe if you choose your friends in DR better, you'll have a better opinion.

Regarding Arod, he was born and raise here, everybody is making a big fuss about it.
he hasn't said that he hates SD or anything like that. Conformense con Felix Sanchez

What the hell nina, nobody in the DR is saying A-ROD said anything wrong but New Papers everybody i know says is true he was born in the US like so many Dominican Americans. (BIG FREAKING DEAL) i'm sure if he wasn't who he is no one will ever care.

Guatiao · #8 10-18-2004, 09:40 AM

WE should stop being brainwashed by media. They want another controversy, more money for them. Like I said before in another thread, he is American from Dominican parents. He is a good role model, why knock him down? So far he has turned out to be a great player and leader.

Let me add this:
I believe I am more of a betrayer to the Dominican Republic then he is. I was born in DR but I'm American by naturalization. Every person that vows alliance to another country is more of a betrayer, so Dominicans shouldn't talk because every/most Dominican that steps American land wants to ultimately be an American citizen.

Antonia Preer · #9 10-18-2004, 06:14 PM

What a coincidence that I found this thread... I was kind of thinking about this last night as I watched the Yankees Game.

First of all I am of Afro-American and Mexican descent, but I identify as black American.. Just saying this to let you know where I am coming from..

Anyway,

Please try not to get offended.... I hate to say it... but A-Rod smells alittle sell-out-ish to me. This is my own personal observation.. It isnt the way he speaks or behaves or whether he is from the DR or U.S. You can have all the education and money in the world and be U.S born and still be down for your people. You dont have to be from the Ghetto or a person from poverty. It has nothing to do with that in my eyes. He is a clean cut guy ( and I like that), and a dynamic player (no doubt) BUT, It is just something about him that just screams "I'm not truely proud of being Dominican". Did he marry a Dominican woman?? Not to say marrying a Dominican woman makes you more dominican because it doesnt BUT, you have to consider these things. I dont know... Its hard for me to put my finger on it. I just like Manny and Pedro Better. A-Rod comes off Like he is trying so hard to please White America. It feels like (to me) that he wants soooo badly to be accepted. What I am feeling must have some validity because it was coincidental that what I have been thinking about lately happened to be a topic on here.

I know this sounds extreme, but being an Afro American I have seen these types a thousand times ( Tiger Woods, OJ simpson etc). We have tons of them. So, trust me , we are experts on spotting them!
Its only right to love America and appreciate what it has done for you, but that doesnt have to negate the love and pride you have for your people..

but then again maybe I am being too hard on him. He is a great player after all and that's all that really matters in the end. Right???

deelt · #10 10-18-2004, 06:45 PM

Antonia,

Again, what does he have to be proud of? Did you see how he was forced to grow up? He is a product of his experiences and socialization. Same goes for Tiger Woods. OJ can't really say, that is just more like self-hate and anger management to me.

Case in point, you identify with being more AA than Mexican? If so why?
If so, was rejection a factor from the Mexican side? If not, then you cannot really say that you deny your Mexican side at all and you view yourself as a mix.

I think this is being blown out of proportion. To me he is Dominican-American. I am all him taking that stand. I thank him for it because it was about time one of us said it. Dominicans don't really accept us, unless it is convenient for them. Now se le fue el tiro por la culata.

Peace

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Originally Posted by Antonia Preer

What a coincidence that I found this thread... I was kind of thinking about this last night as I watched the Yankees Game.

First of all I am of Afro-American and Mexican descent, but I identify as black American.. Just saying this to let you know where I am coming from..

Anyway,