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Old 11-01-2005, 05:07 PM
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another sad but true.............being dominican can also be a safe guard in this business world.. when you first walk in for an interview, they see a black face, but then they look at the resume (fluency in spanish) and another glance at your last name and think "well at least she's not black.. lets bring her aboard.. yippeeeeeeeeee"


That was so unPC, but hey, its a forum.. discuss.

But who says you cannot be Dominican and black? I think you are confusing ethnic/cultural labels with racial ones. A Dominican can be black, white, or mixed-raced--regardless of surname or fluency in Spanish.

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Old 11-01-2005, 05:14 PM
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But who says you cannot be Dominican and black? I think you are confusing ethnic/cultural labels with racial ones. A Dominican can be black, white, or mixed-raced--regardless of surname or fluency in Spanish.

my fault, when i wrote black, i didnt go further into operationalizing what i meant in this specific context. i meant african-american. and unfortunately situations like the one i described have happened to me and several people i know. i am sure that we all as adults or semi quasi adults understand that a dominican can be black, white, or mixed-raced--regardless of surname or fluency in spanish, but i brought up a situation for discussion and not a generalization.. discuss...ta daooooo
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:07 PM
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another sad but true.............being dominican can also be a safe guard in this business world.. when you first walk in for an interview, they see a black face, but then they look at the resume (fluency in spanish) and another glance at your last name and think "well at least she's not black.. lets bring her aboard.. yippeeeeeeeeee"


That was so unPC, but hey, its a forum.. discuss.
You wish, there are thousands of successful black americans with careers that latinos dream of having, black americans are one of the most productive, successful, and highly respected races in the world! There are over two dozen Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The greatest names and achievers in History are black americans, concon don't be ignorant, start reading and researching and get a clue. I can list over a dozen websites showing their accomplishments.

Also, you do not need a resume for house-keeping or cleaning jobs
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:35 PM
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ding ding ding.. i believe ricardo w. bush has won the black vote..

wow.. did i touch a nerve.. i wish i were blind to the fact that racism exists in this country. thank you for listing the accomplishments of black people or else i would have been in suspense all night. i gave a situation. a real life situation. does that mean that i am happy about it or i believe african americans haven't made educational accomplishments. i dont see the correlation. but if you want you can list the websites. and besides we are getting off the topics as well as more accomplishments. a forum is to start discussion so discuss.. yee haaa.. hugs anyone?



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You wish, there are thousands of successful black americans with careers that latinos dream of having, black americans are one of the most productive, successful, and highly respected races in the world! There are over two dozen Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The greatest names and achievers in History are black americans, concon don't be ignorant, start reading and researching and get a clue. I can list over a dozen websites showing their accomplishments.

Also, you do not need a resume for house-keeping or cleaning jobs

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Old 11-01-2005, 07:47 PM
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i'm getting hungry for some concon quemao con habichuela y aguacate....yum, yum......throw in some tostones topped off with carne de res guisada....maybe tomorrow nite.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:50 PM
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:::scraping the bottom of the pan:::

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i'm getting hungry for some concon quemao con habichuela y aguacate....yum, yum......throw in some tostones topped off with carne de res guisada....maybe tomorrow nite.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:08 PM
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Thus, my conclusion is that these people are ashamed of their Dominican heritage since they continuously downplay or outright deny what they are...
Have any folks here have had that experience? Or have you ever denied your heritage? If so, why?

Just curious...
Yes its a shame, but it happens but like others have mentioned, many many issues can cause people to deny their heritage...I am quite the opposite. Although I was born & raised in the US, when I am asked what I am, I immediately say I am Dominican. I know I'm American but what do you do when your own people (Dominicans & all Latinos for that matter) think you are African American (which is ridiculous when there are soooooooo many dark skinned Dominicans) and African Americans know you are not "black"? Who do you relate to. This has been my case & it fvck's with you more when you are young...It eventually takes a strong person to stay connected to your roots, and to not deny the ignorant people who deny you!

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Old 11-02-2005, 03:33 AM
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It makes me laugh the way you all rabbit on about a person being a true dominican or not - when you're a dominican do you celebrate you taino roots, your african roots as well as your spanish roots? these dominicans living abroad breeding with non dominicans, are just adding another ingredient to the mix and if it weren't for people like you lot trying to make them feel bad for being who they think they are (real domonican or not - whatever than means because if you read much of the other garbage that you write about dominicans you'd be ashamed to be one) I celebrate my mixed background and my DR husband does too but still find prejudices exist sometimes because I'm catholic, sometimes because I have a different accenty, sometimes because I'm a woman - biggots exist everywhere.
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:42 AM
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Just like yari, I was also born and raised in the U.S. I am American and my parent's are all Dominican, straight from the island, but personally it all depends where you have been, and who you feel you are..I have swarn my allegance to one flag since birth, I was given free education here, I met people who cared about children and my well being..although "I love" merengue music, and Dominican food...that does not make me feel Dominican...I am of Dominican origin in my thin faced, hindu like features, that I never will deny...but neither any caucasian or Afro-American or Dominican can say that I am not an American...I only found out how American I really was, when I tried to stay in D.R. for six month's recently..they showed me how American I really am...I found out my belief's were different, and my way of thinking as well...we did not click at all! I had to return back to the U.S. like a bat out of hell!!but having that experience made me come full circle..and added perspective to my life and elleviated alot of confusion and curiousities I had about the D.R.

Here in the U.S. I mingle with all cultures and ethnic groups from school to the folk's in my church...saying that I am or not a Dominican means nothing to me anymore..I don't believe in the culture thing, I wave one flag to those who have feed me filled my life with oppurtunities and educated me...simply if I like something I like it, if I don't, I won't deal with it, I am foreign and domestic...and I wouldn't want it any other way....but will I jump up and down claiming I am Dominican for amusement NO! sir...I stand firm, I am an American of Dominican descent, that's it...no more then that!
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:56 AM
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Whenever anyone asks me what I am, I say I'm Dominican but I make it a point to tell them that I was born in the U.S. Both my parents were born and raised in D.R. and I'm proud to be Dominican. Especially since I have light skin and blue eyes it throws people off.
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