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Old 02-19-2008, 01:06 AM
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I am not a Dominican but live around them.
I noticed people that come from Dominican republic and live here seem cold and a bit hostile and wanted to know why?
Specifically in New York.
Dominicans don't speak to Americans, they stay to themselves and never speak English. And when I did try to make conversation with one in the store all the other Dominicans look at me as if I had done something wrong.
And it seems that they don't want to embrace our culture but want to live here. or want to colonize.
They watch everything in Spanish on TV.
They raise their flags everywhere here and never recognize the American flag of the country they live, breathe, sleep, and eat.
I understand its their culture but its less than 1% I see them embrace the American culture.

But when I vist their country Dominican Republic. I embrace everything about their culture. I learn the language, watch spanish tv, embrace the flag and culture and speak with non Americans.

Why come to the U.S and be hostile?
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:25 AM
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They do not move to the US because they want to embrace the culture there, they move there to earn enough money to assure them a better future.
They certainly are not cold.
In fact, they are very passionate and hot blooded people.
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:36 AM
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May be they don't like your culture, people embrace a new culture if it is better than theirs.... !?

(Not trying to stir things up but just a thought.)
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Third_World View Post
I am not a Dominican but live around them.
I noticed people that come from Dominican republic and live here seem cold and a bit hostile and wanted to know why?
Specifically in New York.
Dominicans don't speak to Americans, they stay to themselves and never speak English. And when I did try to make conversation with one in the store all the other Dominicans look at me as if I had done something wrong.
And it seems that they don't want to embrace our culture but want to live here. or want to colonize.
They watch everything in Spanish on TV.
They raise their flags everywhere here and never recognize the American flag of the country they live, breathe, sleep, and eat.
I understand its their culture but its less than 1% I see them embrace the American culture.

But when I vist their country Dominican Republic. I embrace everything about their culture. I learn the language, watch spanish tv, embrace the flag and culture and speak with non Americans.

Why come to the U.S and be hostile?
Jesus Christ!!!. Just came here to read and I had to read all these generalization nonsense!!.

1- I am not cold,
2- I am not hostile,
3- I speak to Americans,
4- I don't stay to myself,
5- I always speak English,
6- I don't look bad a people when they try to talk to me,
7- I embraced the US's culture, I even consider myself more American than Dominican,
8- I don't watch Spanish television,
9- I don't raise the Dominican flag, I do have a little American in my car (after 9/11)

Now, since you have the cojones to generalize, that means you know every single Dominican living in the US.

OOOOOOOOPS, I guess you missed ME!. (And a few others here).

WHERE IN HELL DO THEY FIND THESE PEOPLE!!!!.

(R AND O!!).
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:28 AM
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May be they don't like your culture, people embrace a new culture if it is better than theirs.... !?

(Not trying to stir things up but just a thought.)
This is exactly what I mean. Why move to a country? If you don't like their culture. A culture its part of that countries bloodline and people.
Its really being hostile, and wanted to suck up the countries resources like people are saying just there for money and nothing else.
Us Americans don't do that to your country. We don't go around being hostile and posting our flag everywhere. If we did you would be upset.
My point exactly
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:07 AM
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This is exactly what I mean. Why move to a country? If you don't like their culture. A culture its part of that countries bloodline and people.
Its really being hostile, and wanted to suck up the countries resources like people are saying just there for money and nothing else.
Us Americans don't do that to your country. We don't go around being hostile and posting our flag everywhere. If we did you would be upset.
My point exactly
Of course everyone that moves to the DR comes with the best of intentions. No one starts up a business to make themselves rich the easiest way possible, no one has people working for them for a measly US$150/month and everyone embraces the Dominican culture and only does what's best for the country. Right....
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:37 AM
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Keep in mind that the majority of the people that move from the US to the DR, or another foreign country do it only because they *want* to, while many Dominicans and other foreigners move to the US because they feel they *need* to. To many peorpl, especially from 3rd world or otherwise impovershed/dangerous countries, there is a sense of no future for themselves or families.

That being the case, they may not be all that willing to completely embrace the culture and ways of their new country. I'm not saying it's right...at all. I think at the very least they should make an effort to learn the language, and many do not...

...but just making an observation...
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:41 AM
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Keep in mind that the majority of the people that move from the US to the DR, or another foreign country do it only because they *want* to, while many Dominicans and other foreigners move to the US because they feel they *need* to. To many peorpl, especially from 3rd world or otherwise impovershed/dangerous countries, there is a sense of no future for themselves or families.

That being the case, they may not be all that willing to completely embrace the culture and ways of their new country. I'm not saying it's right...at all. I think at the very least they should make an effort to learn the language, and many do not...

...but just making an observation...
But you have to forgive the retirees for not learning the lingo.
It's near impossible to learn a new language when you're over 50.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:40 AM
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Dominicans are not cold, on the contrary they are a very friendly and warm people. Don't take the look they have on their face as indicative of their mood. If you say good afternoon, they will answer right back, "good afternoon".

As far as NYC goes, it can be more complicated. #1, most Domincans think Americans are cold, and therefore may try to avoid them. Add on top of this the world famous(or infamous) NYC inhospitality and general disdain for friendliness and you can see why they might have this feeling. However, if you speak the language fluently enough to be able to communicate with the first generation immigrants, they would for sure recieve you better. #2, as far as their love of their country, I think a lot has to do with the hostile environment that NYC is compared to the DR, ie Dominicans are a very open and friendly people, so if NY'ers don't value this as they do they will just stick to themselves for the most part and dream of a sunnier friendlier place.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:46 AM
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This is exactly what I mean. Why move to a country? If you don't like their culture. A culture its part of that countries bloodline and people.
Its really being hostile, and wanted to suck up the countries resources like people are saying just there for money and nothing else.
Us Americans don't do that to your country. We don't go around being hostile and posting our flag everywhere. If we did you would be upset.
My point exactly
I think DavidZ made a good point about "Want" and "Need". It all depends of course. I doubt many immigrant really sucking up too much resources, most are working hard on a very little wage - don't believe everything you read in the paper.

Although I don't want to mention Americans embracing a lot of culture in Iraq and Afganistan (and a lot of other countries), waving US flags, and shooting everything on sight...... !? (that's how they do it for "Need" !!!!?)
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