Denying Haitian contributions to Dominican society

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Pib

Chris, this is hardly the Gaza strip. Sorry to dissapoint you.

Similar rabid hatred when the topic comes up....

Originally Posted by Pib

When you start with an OP which is merely a thinly disguised bait you can hardly have a meaningful discussion, which leaves the fringe elements as the only ones who enthusiastically reply to it.

Did not recognize it as a bait - but then I'm 'young in this DR world....' I'm off to get a life and do some shopping...

But wait... the art really intrigues me... There is such a different style. One style reminds me of home, and the other reminds me of church... Yeah! I know, start a new thread - and don't mention the H word...

[Terry O'Connell]

Good history lesson Rapadou. Pena Gomez was a great Dominican patirot, who did his best for his country in a brave and honorable manor. People, like Bob Saunders, should know this. However, you use the Workers World as the source for your thread. WW is a left slanted rag that bends facts to suit its cause. Much of the report you cite is slanted drivel. Here is a first hand account of the "Second US occupation:

In July of 1965, I was a 18 year old United States Army private, of the 101st Airborne Division, attached to a Special Forces Green Beret Company. I was fresh out of jump school at Fort Hood Texas, sent to Santo Domingo from Patrick Air Force Base in Coco Beach Florida. I believe we arrived on the 16th of July. We were assigned to support the small Marine guard at the US Consulate and to protect various other US interests. My most vivid memory of the time was the complete calamity the city was in. Armed gangs looting shops, hotels, offices, stealing anthing they could get. Dominicans shooting Dominicans. Many brave Dominican solders and police were killed and wonded in these weeks. Just when it seemed that the Dominican Police and Army units were gaining control over the street mobs, the Marines came. All hell broke loose. Some Dominican units went over to the street gangs, others stayed with us.
The street fighting was horrible. Terrible times. I remember my sargent caught three jerks loosely dressed as Dominican police. They were sooting at the protesters, then inciting the mob to attack us, blaming the shootings on the Marines. I was ordered to take them over to the police units still at the Prisdental Place. No small, task since the mobs were between our position and the palace. The next day I saw their bodies shot in the head, just where my buddy and I left them. Contrary to the WW report, my unit was then assigned to guard the jails in the city to prevent just what WW says happned. To the best of my knowledge, we set no one free and did not arm anyone. It was not in our interest to give wepons to anyone. Four of us were sent to the Navy base to guard a small tanker which was being used as a jail. Don't know who was in there. I know nothing of this guy Dan Mitrione or what he did or did not do. While at this duty I had a relatively quiet few days. While talking with a few Dominican Navel officers I was supprised to learn that this Gomez fellow was liked and admired by many loyal to the junta. Anyway, I was at the Navy base three days then ordered to the compny staging area wher we were flown directly to San Francisco Califorina, then to Da Nang, Vietnam. Spent three years in country, but that's another story.
In 1993, while working in Antigua I meet a beautiful Dominican girl and married her. She is the daughter of one of Pedro Gomez's cousens. Go figgure.
TO'C

[guaroa]

Originally Posted by Rapadou

Pena Gomez, ULysses Heureaux, well like it or not that self hated man Trujillo had Haitian roots, and yes Sammy Sosa too, just to name a few.

On my last visit to the DR, I noticed that Haitians are almost given 0 if any credit in Dominican society, why is that. I stayed on a resort in which many if not a 99.9% of the paintings being sold as native paintings were work of arts of people with Haitians ancestry yet they're hardly given any credit.

Pena Gomez was ridiculed because of his Haitian link, but just not Trujillo because like Hitler he managed to convince many he had no trace of Haitian blood in his veins. ANd Sammy well he's totally ignored his Haitian background. What kind of a society is that to deny such obvious facts about those who've contributed so much to it. ALmost to the brink of self hatred, how much longer can you hide it.

who care about pena gomes it is a frinkin black from haiti sammy sosa frinkin descedant of cocolo, ulisua erouA WHATever the name is, frinkin haiti.

the contribution of haitian and cocolo is to cut sugarcane, to add infections, sickness, blackness, etcccc etttcccc hunger , poverty. who care about haitians

we already have two millions of these rats in DR.

what pena gomes did , to pass as DR to still money from other country.

the DR black are the mongolos from villa mella which we dont have anymore.

be careful , only black haitians in DR have haitians root and culture.

yes haitians have been infecting DR thats it. you are virus like PR .

we dont want more slave haitians in DR and we will treat you guys as dogs like you are. who care about haitians. leave our country.

to trujillo is a dominican and his grand grand grand mother was haitians black. el jefe. at least he kill some rats to clean the country DR. I dont from where in the capital all of these blacks came from after trujillo die. I guess the frontier open to anybody ( rats)

[Terry O'Connell]

Hay guaroa, what happned to you today? Drop your plate of rice? Drop your pistola down one of thoes thing you bean heads call a toilet? Your mama won't let you lick her anymore? Your motocicleta out of fuel? Who's the rat? You are the perfect example of what is keeping this country down. Ignorance! Ignorancia! Save your rantings for your motoconcho amigos.
TO'C

[guaroa]

Originally Posted by Terry O'Connell

Hay guaroa, what happned to you today? Drop your plate of rice? Drop your pistola down one of thoes thing you bean heads call a toilet? Your mama won't let you lick her anymore? Your motocicleta out of fuel? Who's the rat? You are the perfect example of what is keeping this country down. Ignorance! Ignorancia! Save your rantings for your motoconcho amigos.
TO'C

let me guess it begin with H and end with N so it include you.

I am somebody that will stop haitian invision to DR like our our patriat did JUAN PABLO DUARTE

Juan Pablo Duarte

DUARTE, Juan Pablo (duar'te), founder of the Dominican republic, born in Santo Domingo City early in the present century; died in Venezuela, 15 July 1876. He studied law in Spain, where he was admitted to the bar. While he was studying, the eastern part of the Island of Santo Domingo, which had become independent from Spain, was conquered by the republic of Haiti, which occupied the western part, thus making the Island into a single republic. The Haitians ruled with an iron hand on the conquered part, which was inhabited largely by people of Spanish descent. Duarte, after returning to his native City, conceived the idea of freeing his country, and founded in 1838 "La Trinitaria," a secret society, which soon extended through the Spanish section of the island, and paved the way for national independence. A first attempt to obtain this, made in March 1843, was unsuccessful, and Duarte was compelled to leave the country. On 27 February 1844, another attempt was made, this time a successful one.

A commission was sent to Curacao, where Duarte resided, to bring him to Santo Domingo, to take part in the provisional government of the new republic, and on 12 June 1844, he was nominated in Cibao for president by the liberal party, in opposition to General Santana, appointed to the same office in Santo Domingo City by the reactionary party. Duarte was defeated and banished, remained in obscurity for many years, and only appeared in the Island after the return of the Dominican Republic to Spanish rule in 1861. He took part in the struggle that ended in 1865, in the reestablishment of the republic, went on a mission abroad, and died in Caracas. In 1883 the board of aldermen of Santo Domingo caused a life-size portrait of Duarte to be placed in the municipal hall, and in 1884 his remains were brought to Santo Domingo with appropriate public ceremonies

http://www.rincondominicano.com/hist...cia/duarte.php
http://www.jmarcano.com/mipais/historia/duarte.html
http://www.historiapatriadominicana.com/duarte.htm
http://www.agroenciclopedia.com/gran...abloduarte.htm
http://www.27febrero.com/
http://gosouthamerica.about.com/libr...mhistoria8.htm
http://www.mundodominicano.com/es/pe...io-duarte.html

[Pib]

Guaroa, please refrain from posting in this thread again. You have been warned. Next warning will mean a long vacation. Anyone who replies to Guaroa's drivel is looking at the same fate.

[guaroa]

Suicide by Mod it is then.
Pib

[bob saunders]

I know perfectly well what Pedro Gomez was and who he represented, Every country has people that use the oppression of poor people to stay in power and others that use the poverty of poor people to get elected. Pedro Gomez made many promises to the poor that he wouldn't have been able to keep, and he was just as corrupt as the rest of the PRDists, thats why Juan B formed the PLD, to get away from those crooks that had taken over his party. My comment still hasn't been answered: WHAT DID HE DO FOR THE DR.

[Chirimoya]

Originally Posted by bob saunders

I know perfectly well what Pedro Gomez was and who he represented, Every country has people that use the oppression of poor people to stay in power and others that use the poverty of poor people to get elected. Pedro Gomez made many promises to the poor that he wouldn't have been able to keep, and he was just as corrupt as the rest of the PRDists, thats why Juan B formed the PLD, to get away from those crooks that had taken over his party. My comment still hasn't been answered: WHAT DID HE DO FOR THE DR.

Who is this Pedro Gomez you keep on talking about? He can't be that famous, there aren't any streets named after him.

[Terry O'Connell]

Originally Posted by Pib

Guaroa, please refrain from posting in this thread again. You have been warned. Next warning will mean a long vacation. Anyone who replies to Guaroa's drivel is looking at the same fate.

I have fought in three wars in my life;
Seen unmentionable suffering and death;
When I hear or see such ignorance as spouted today, it is my duty to respond; the memory of my expirences compels me.
I am a white Irish American by birth, a Dominican by choise and by the grace of destiny...
Go f--k yourself
TO"C