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02-13-2005, 04:52 PM
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It may have been mentioned already, but the country should already finish other projects first. The 4-lane highway extension from San Pedro to Punta Cana is a good example. It is being worked on at a snail's pace. Sure doesn't make a metro in Santo Domingo sound promising. Yeah, a metro might get completed in the year 2017, based on history of completed works.  |
02-14-2005, 05:06 AM
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Music, Rum and Cigars
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just some thoughts
The hippo party still controls the senate.. Leonel is in govt.. they need each other.. the Metro project is a big buy-off project for all parties concerned and will ensure Hippo's silence during the period and acceptance of Leonels policies...
We have already seen that the govt employees have been added and not changed.. now the Metro will be there as a cash trading project...
This country is going to be robbed blind for the upcoming period.. get out while you can!
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02-14-2005, 02:26 PM
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For those that didn't read dr1 daily news today:
Puerto Rico metro vs. DR metro
News analyst Juan Bolivar Diaz in a Saturday write up in Hoy newspaper compares the costs of the Puerto Rico metro at US$2.2 billion or US$127.9 million per kilometer (17.2 kms) to the US$327 million figure used by Metro Minister Diandino Pena for the Santo Domingo metro. When its construction was begun in 1996, the San Juan metro had a budget of US$1.25 million, one billion less than the actual figure of the unfinished subway. He says that Metro Minister Diandino Pena is aware of these costs but argues that labor in the DR will cost less.
In his analysis, Diaz highlights that the Puerto Rican metro only goes underground for 1.9 kilometer, or an eighth of the total extension. He said that stretch cost US$478 million, or US$251 million per tunnel kilometer.
The Santo Domingo metro will have ten kilometers, all completely underground. He also questions the cost of RD$5-RD$10 for fare of the metro, when comparing it to world standard of US$1.50 to US$2 per ride. The Santo Domingo metro would have to compete with the conchos and buses that circulate above.
Diaz also comments on the construction time proposed by the promoters. The promoters say they can build the 10 kilometers of underground tunnels in three and a half years. The metro of San Juan was supposed to be completed in five years, and has taken 10 years, even when only an eighth of the construction is underground.
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02-14-2005, 03:00 PM
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DR1
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Metro systems in the US. Interesting how many are above ground. See http://world.nycsubway.org/us/
Also was reading about the NYC subway and how it fell in bad shape in the 70s and 80s. "By the early 80s a third of the fleet was typically out of service during the morning rush hours, cars broke down or caught fire, trains derailed on hazardous track, and graffiti covered virtually every car. In 1982 the MTA began to rehabilitate the subways through a series of five-year Capital Programs, the largest public transportation rebuilding effort in national history. Over $39 billion has been invested since the program began." http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/mta/centennial.htm |
02-14-2005, 04:59 PM
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There many article about the metro in spanish version in Listin diario,Hoy,El jaya etc
www. hoy.com.do
www.listindiario.com.do
www.dr1.com
www.livio.com
New york subway station website www.mta.info where you can find everything of the transit that moves the city.
Lets hope that this Project bring hope to Dominican republic.
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02-15-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
The metro seems like a good idea and would be a good thing to do it now, since every year it will only get even more expensive to build it.
However, I don't fully support this project (not as much as I support Ciudamar) because its in government hands and we all know what happens under the government.
Now, if the metro was to be privately funded and maintained, then it would get my full support.
Maybe the government could sell the project afterwards (they are privatizing everything nowadays) and it will be in private hands afterwards? That could be a possibility, but its no doubt that SDQ will eventually need a metro. It's better to start early than late, but I'm not sure the government should be behind this, at least not 100%.
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NalOws?????
Where is your optimism, man?? Your Pride in the abilities of your government??? Don't you know that the Metro will solve ALL of Santo Domingo's traffic problems??? And it's ALL Lionel's IDEA!!!
Quit the double-speak and get honest with reality instead of talking both ways at once!!!
Texas Bill
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02-15-2005, 09:50 PM
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What makes me shiffer is this
Money needed to save this country is being used for 1 stupid project in Santo Domingo, that probably never will run.
I don't know what Leo smokes, but it's bad news
To force people in the metro, all quaqua's and concho's will be banned and maybe in the whole country
If you need to go from point A to B in a part of SD without metroconnection you are on your own.
But at least we know now why he invented the Taxes 4 years ago
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02-16-2005, 10:58 AM
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Metro ,the church and social security
[SIZE=]Read in the newspaper (Listin Diario ) today about the metro construction
a) Cardinal in favor of Metro construction (the cardinal recieved the guy who is promoting the Metro)
b) In the same article someone proposing to use some money from the social secutiry (retirement money)
Thought that since many years church and government were completely separated at least in most countries in Europe (less in the USA ..was in the USA at election time and have seen bishops on TV trying to influence voters )
Don't know why a Cardinal has to support or not support the construction of a Metro ..NONSENSE
Since in the same article they propose to partially use social security money would have hoped the Cardinal to react against a Metro Project only for that reason ...but no , so I assume that he personally will make an intensive use of it .. [/size]
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Originally Posted by Mr_DR
Santo Domingo Metro system will start construction next month.
Electricity will be self generatedand 100% Expert view this project as a very high unquestionable benefit to users and a very high return.
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02-16-2005, 11:08 AM
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Music, Rum and Cigars
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we at least get some political opposition at the moment.. at first I thought that everybody would condone the project
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