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Old 09-16-2005, 01:29 PM
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[QUOTE=Quisqueya]Do you guys have this one..If someone is calling your name don't turn around on the first call, one has to wait for the third time because it might be a zombie calling you to steal you soul...damn, i still use that one..it works will when people are trying to hit on me..LOL


I've heard that you should not answer at all when you can't identify where the voice is coming from.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:17 PM
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Forbeca,


I think you maybe right on that one ...Geez, i'm forgetting all these beliefs...i'm trying to remember some really outrageous ones...I'll post them when i remember them...
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Old 09-16-2005, 05:04 PM
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Well I'm not Catholic, but was raised Catholic. I had many of the same questions that could not be answered until I actually went to the source: "The Bible". (NB: I enjoy reading about other religions and do enjoy finding the commonalities among faiths, but I do consider myself a Christian).

As for Voodoo/Santeria/Spirits, etc. many of these superstitious behaviours I would say yes they are cultural and even habitual, but I do believe that spirits exists. For even the Bible tells me so.

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Old 09-16-2005, 06:02 PM
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I just don't get humans, I can present people facts & yet they don't believe
Kewl. Which planet are you from?

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Old 09-16-2005, 06:05 PM
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Deelt,


You had no choice...you were born catholic because that's what your parents are/were and their parents and so on and so on....If you look at the bigger scoop most people from latin america are catholics unless they've converted to something else or are non believers....Why? hmmmmmm????????????


I believe it is up to everyone of us to find their personal relationship with their higher being..like you said you read the bible and make your own decisions on certain issues...I believe the congregation walks within me....I was made in his/her image..wasn't I...

on the side note..I find that latin americans and africans from well africa duh are more spiritual than there westernised counterparts...Everything we do we put some kind of sabor or picante into it...while the gringo is so got damn bland....hope I haven't offended anyone but I've always been curious about this...are cultured people closer to the spirits than our westernised counterparts?..I dont know..I'm just babbling on a rant...this should be a PBS special...El gringo no tiene sabor...LOL

great post deelt..simple/short but has great content...

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Well I'm not Catholic, but was raised Catholic. I had many of the same questions that could not be answered until I actually went to the source: "The Bible". (NB: I enjoy reading about other religions and do enjoy find the commanilities among faiths, but I do consider myself a Christian).

As for Voodoo/Santeria/Spirits, etc. many of these superstitious behaviours I would say yes they are cultural and even habitual, but I do believe that spirits exists. For even the Bible tells me so.
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My mother used to say that if a man masterbated too much he'd go blind.

I said ok...I'll stop when I need glasses.

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Old 09-16-2005, 06:33 PM
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Some people go to extremes and choose to ignore science in favor of folklore. So?, Everyone is entitled to look at things in their own way, even if it doesn't always make sense to others.

Sir Isaac Newton helped us understand practical problems from the external world. Stuff like what in other words would be something like this:
in nature, no amount of energy ever dissappears; it is transformed to some other 'format'.

The Common law of the conservation of energy. Science. Reliable Data. .....and, it works time and time again.

We fly rockets into the outer confines of the known physical Universe, take pictures, watch sattellite TV, chat on the Net etc!, thanks to our ability to understand such mysteries and adapt technologies to those discoveries. No Bible/Koran/etc can teach that. Kids need to learn math and philosophy. Kids should be taught about thinking. We must teach about ethics, dialectics, neurocognitive science, anthropology, biology, astronomy. We owe quite a bit to the pre-Christian/Pre-Muslim, Hellenic civilizations for the discovery of science. But we don't pray to Zeus anymore. No Newtonian Church? Look around.

There are deep fears in all humans. Also we share many of the same mundane fears of family and social life that affect us all. To cover our 'existential gaps', we devise theology and religion in an effort to answer eternal questions. But, if you "believe in stuff", then spiritual and mental action work the same way of the laws of physics. Instead of quarks and photons we think of spirits and souls. Physicists and shamans all call the unquantifiable or unknowable the same, "forces". Hey, can any scientist show me the color or density of love? the volume or speed of honesty? or the square root of freedom. ? the temperature of hatred?

Humans - Dominicans included- are always emitting and receiving physical and spiritual forces, in every direction. So , even Freud and Jung may have been, after all, onto something. Mental life and culture are not static, like life itself they evolve...even in Santo Domingo.

- Tordok
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:30 PM
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Tordok,

I usually like most your post but this one I'm shocked....You are letting your education and knowledge give you too much confidence in science...I believe all of the subjects you've mentioned below are covered in the bible...the bible teaches physics, and beyond.....

Remember that our bodies are nothing but mere capsules for our spirits...I believe a little of both doesn't hurt...But to give too much credit to science is out right disrespectful to the mysteries of this world..yes, mankind has accomplished alot but we are still in my opinion in a fetus stage mentally..I believe we haven't even scratched the surface of our capablities...

que Dios te bendiga...remember "the meek shall inherit the earth"...no matter how much you think you know we do not have a clue...


Hope you dont take this the wrong way..which by reading your previous post I know you won't....Much respect..and remember to stay humble and pay hommage....to things we just can't explain...

Cuidate.....



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Originally Posted by Tordok
Some people go to extremes and choose to ignore science in favor of folklore. So?, Everyone is entitled to look at things in their own way, even if it doesn't always make sense to others.

Sir Isaac Newton helped us understand practical problems from the external world. Stuff like what in other words would be something like this:
in nature, no amount of energy ever dissappears; it is transformed to some other 'format'.

The Common law of the conservation of energy. Science. Reliable Data. .....and, it works time and time again.

We fly rockets into the outer confines of the known physical Universe, take pictures, watch sattellite TV, chat on the Net etc!, thanks to our ability to understand such mysteries and adapt technologies to those discoveries. No Bible/Koran/etc can teach that. Kids need to learn math and philosophy. Kids should be taught about thinking. We must teach about ethics, dialectics, neurocognitive science, anthropology, biology, astronomy. We owe quite a bit to the pre-Christian/Pre-Muslim, Hellenic civilizations for the discovery of science. But we don't pray to Zeus anymore. No Newtonian Church? Look around.

There are deep fears in all humans. Also we share many of the same mundane fears of family and social life that affect us all. To cover our 'existential gaps', we devise theology and religion in an effort to answer eternal questions. But, if you "believe in stuff", then spiritual and mental action work the same way of the laws of physics. Instead of quarks and photons we think of spirits and souls. Physicists and shamans all call the unquantifiable or unknowable the same, "forces". Hey, can any scientist show me the color or density of love? the volume or speed of honesty? or the square root of freedom. ? the temperature of hatred?

Humans - Dominicans included- are always emitting and receiving physical and spiritual forces, in every direction. So , even Freud and Jung may have been, after all, onto something. Mental life and culture are not static, like life itself they evolve...even in Santo Domingo.

- Tordok
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Old 09-16-2005, 07:55 PM
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Tordok,

I usually like most your post but this one I'm shocked....You are letting your education and knowledge give you too much confidence in science...

and:

...But to give too much credit to science is out right disrespectful to the mysteries of this world...
hmm, I read Tordok's post exactly the opposite. No one mentioned Shakespeare, but he said it too: a rose by any other name smells as sweet.

The tone, as well, was not as a teacher with absolute knowledge, as you wrote, 'Remember that our bodies are nothing but mere capsules for our spirits.'

I was raised Catholic/Anglican, but thank Whomever I threw out that ****t at age 11. Made no sense.

Anyone kewl enough to be God ain't going to give a rat's a$$ if some poor naked soul running through the desert ever heard tell of him. AS IF he would tell the poor naked soul he couldn't come home at the end of the rat race. AS IF he would care what this warlike, peabrained species thinks. PULEEZE.

I'd fire that God if he existed: who needs another all powerful dictator type with a cosmos wide inferiority complex?

If there is a god, he's the biggest jokester in the universe. Now that I can deal with.
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Old 09-16-2005, 08:02 PM
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Most of the Santeria/voodoo practices is in the following of Yoruban Iwa religion. So that's the flavor/picante we add.

Because I love to conserve energy and gas, I don't drive an SUV. LOL I am also glad that all things come to an end...even the basic tenet of thermodynamic says so. However, I recognize that we only use 10% of our brain capacity.

Indeed T, I am with Q on this one. There is something to that "the sixth sense" some blessed people have.

Wish I can talk about this topic for a while but I'll be internet-less this weekend.

Spiritually yours,
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