dengue fever

[Chris]

Originally Posted by NALs

I know this is not a politically correct thing to say, but wtf, I'm going to say it anyway because everyone who lives in the DR either part-time or full know this to be true!
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I know Haitians are often blamed for many things, many of which are exaggerated, but the malaria issue seems to be right on.

-NALs

I have many answers to this one. But I'll stick to the short answer. I've never heard of mosquitos that are partial to selecting their prey on the basis of nationality. I have heard of groups of people living in deplorable conditions where there conditions lead to outbreak of illness, mosquito born or otherwise. In other words, if there was a Haitian and a Dominican crossing the road, the malaria mosquito will most probably bite the one closest to him.

[BushBaby]

Awwwww, come on Chris - don't use LOGIC on him, that would destroy 90% of his argument!! ~ Grahame.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by BushBaby

Awwwww, come on Chris - don't use LOGIC on him, that would destroy 90% of his argument!! ~ Grahame.

Can you imagine the mosquitos' conversation? .. "Hey Pardner, I spy one!" "No way Soldier... we cannot bite that one, he has documents." and so on and so on... Some comic can probably make a hilarious skit.

[Rick Snyder]

Speaking of which, I just thought I would spread some thoughts on the matter;

The Anopheles mosquito, which carries the malaria parasite Plasmodium is estimated to have been responsible for half of the human deaths in history outside of war and accidents since the Stone Age. This claim is always debated by those who would say, "Well the parasite is causing the deaths, not the mosquitoes!" However, the parasite must be delivered by the mosquito vector to infect its host. It is harmless to humans without the mosquito.

What do you get if you cross a mosquito with a mountain climber? A: You can't cross a vector with a scaler (scalar).

A Dominican boy and a Haitian girl are sitting together in a park under the moonlight. A mosquito flies up the girls skirt. Guess where the mosquito bites????????????? Nope ……………………….. On the Dominicans hand!

Rick

SORRY..................

[NALs]

Originally Posted by Chris

I have many answers to this one. But I'll stick to the short answer. I've never heard of mosquitos that are partial to selecting their prey on the basis of nationality. I have heard of groups of people living in deplorable conditions where there conditions lead to outbreak of illness, mosquito born or otherwise. In other words, if there was a Haitian and a Dominican crossing the road, the malaria mosquito will most probably bite the one closest to him.

Malaria is not a disease that is created by mosquitos, such creatures simply transmit such virus after biting someone who is infected with such virus and everyone else who gets bitten during the remaining lifespan of such mosquito WILL get the virus.

Mosquitos are not impartial to nationality, but Haitians have a higher incidence in the spread of malaria. Thus, where ever there have been an influx of Haitians, there has been an outbreak of malaria after heavy rains.

The malaria affects anyone whose bitten by a mosquito carrying the virus, but the mosquito carries the virus AFTER biting someone whose infected.

There is a reason why malaria is more prevalant along the border and in bateyes vs. everywhere else. And there is a reason why malaria is more widespread in Haiti than in DR. And conditions are pretty uniform all over the Dominican countryside and yet, only in Bateye ridden areas and along the border is malaria an issue. Everywhere else the risks are almost non-existant.

The Haitians have a higher incidence of malaria, why? I don't know, certainly not for being Haitians.

What's next from you guys? That sleeping with a Haitian has the same level of risks regarding being infected with AIDS vs. a Dominican? Despite the fact that AIDS is more prevailant among Haitians than Dominicans?

Please people, stop acting so stupid!

-NALs

[Chris]

Originally Posted by NALs

Mosquitos are not impartial to nationality, but Haitians have a higher incidence in the spread of malaria. Thus, where ever there have been an influx of Haitians, there has been an outbreak of malaria after heavy rains.

-NALs

[bolding mine] I think you meant impartial to nationality

ROTFL - The best example of a Freudian slip this year I think...

Anyway, Nals, if martians were living in the same or similar conditions and with the educational lack as Haitians in the DR .. the mosquitos will bite them first too! Nothing to do with nationality (as I think you know), but a lot to do with abject poverty and the living conditions/lack of education that is an outflow of this.

Living Conditions? Well, I don't know. Ask the folks in Cabarete for example - Besides the normal precautions, no-one worries too much about mosquitos there. It is easy Nals ... Just leave the word Haitian out of your sentences. It will be much harder for us sweet-and-sour-and-twisted-ones to see the extreme racial prejudice that you've consistently displayed when this issue is raised.

Btw, where I come from, the incidence of malaria or other such mosquito born or fly born diseases increase as the quality of the living conditions decrease. I think you'll find it the same everywhere - this pesky correlation between disease/mosquitos/flies/the black plague/dengue and so on, and living conditions.

Darn those Haitians! They just don't want to co-operate with racial prejudice, do they? They simply need to go and work in el jefe's sugar plantatians or build a building or clean the sewers or beg on the street corners so we can spit at them, and never be heard of ever again. (This piece is tongue-in-cheeck, it is a poor attempt at irony, and it does not reflect my feelings on this matter ... it is a joke!)

[NALs]

"Doctors have been placed at the major construction sites in the area, to guarantee the periodical evaluation of the workers entering and leaving the sites, allowing for the sustained control of malaria in the zone."

What type of people predominate in Dominican construction sites?

"The Dominican Republic is generally considered a low risk transmission country in the Americas, with only prophylaxis recommendations for travelers to rural areas, especially near the border with Haiti."

What is that? "Especially near the border with Haiti?

"...head of the Epidemic Department of SESPAS indicated that the highest incidence of malaria is concentrated in three southwestern provinces (Bahoruco, Barahona and Azua). These provinces are either located on the frontier with Haiti, or have large sugar cane plantations or other heavy irrigation-based agriculture."

Hmm, aren't bateyes widespread in sugar cane plantations?

Aren't Haitians heavily present anywhere there is heavy irrigation-based agriculture?

Aren't many Haitians on the provinces along the frontier?

"The 1998 [malaria] outbreak is attributed to the hurricane flooding of wet forest areas that occurred at a time of intense hotel construction in the area and the import of large numbers of Haitian workers that were hired for the constructions."

What? The import of large numbers of what?

"He explains that malaria is a social sickness that primarily affects persons of low income given their living conditions."

Who are the poorest people in the DR?

Courtesy from our very own DR1 News: Special Report on Malaria in the Dominican Republic – 9 December 2004

Oooh aaah, there are so many racists out there, oooh aaaah. gre:

If I could only post an image of crap every time the "racism" bolony is brought to the table.... DR1 would be a pretty smelly site!
Then again, of all people would use such card, I mean the history and all...
-NALs

[dv8]

yes, mosquitos and the rest of creepy crawlies are a problem. i use the net, fumigate and ocassionally spray myself with repelent.
i used to suffer more when i first came here but luckily those little buggers do not like me no more.
i am used to big hairy spiders, i do not mind bats and lizards - but they do excite our cat.
one thing i really dislike is those big roaches .
and of course there are parasite.
one thing one has to remember is that what we think is a small infection/illness may really prove to be more sinister - so it is good to go to the doctor, just in case.
and that's about it. don't worry about things TOO much....

[Chris]

Originally Posted by NALs

Then again, of all people would use such card, I mean the history and all...
-NALs

We know the statistics on dengue etc., Nals ... what we're trying to tell you is that it is not necessarily a phenomemon is related to Haitian people. It is not 'be very very scared of Haitians' that should be put forward ... what should be put forward, is a fair representation of the danger areas and the ones that pose lesser danger. Please get it now! All the fun is going out of this.

A fairer way to put this, would be that Dengue is more prevalent in these areas - the border area with Haiti, and the three southwestern provinces of Bahoruco, Barahona and Azua (as per your post). See the difference .. fair, correct and no cheap shots at anyone.

Thanks dv8!

[Chris]

OK, I'm not really an animal - despite what Nals thinks. Really I'm not.

Nals, you have a fobia about Haitian people that is very painful to watch. I daresay you have fobias about a few other nationalities as well. I'll leave your other comments unanswered as they are incredibly stupid, singularly uninformed, and says a whole lot more about your biases than my upbringing. They are also way beyond the scope of this board. Nals, you have a fobia about Haitians, and I suspect a few others as well. Nothing else can explain your mindless and sneaky attacks on another people.

I think I'll send this over to Rick at Debates as I've said too much. Now y'all, be careful out there! Don't put your hand where the mosquito is going to bite it.