why is this country soo disorganized?

[Texas Bill]

Originally Posted by miguel

All that and....

Pretty simple:

If you want "things" to be done the way it's done in your country, why go to a third world country?.

"Things" WILL NOT change. It may get a little better but after a while, BOOM, back to the way it was again.

When a person relocated to the DR, they have to choices:

1- Adapt to the country or 2- pack your bags and leave.

"The DR will NOT adapt to you, you have to adapt to the DR. If you don't, you WILL live a misearable life while life in the DR WILL go on, PROBLEMS AND ALL!!".

Miguel:

That's the BEST ANSWER I have ever read to those of us who are forever denegrating the "modus operendi" of the Dominican Republic.

It was true 500 years ago and is still true today.

People who come here just don't seem to realize that they are no longer in the country they departed from and forget that it is they who must change and adapt. Their negativism is called 'culture shock" and the sooner they get over that phenomenon and join in with the rest of the society, the better their life will be.

I, personally, have had a difficult time of it although I've been exposed to many different societies over the last 80 years.

I suppose it is because we all are victims of habits and patterns learned in early life that makes us this way, but the human animal can and does adapt, else he would not have survived the past couple of million years without doing so.
So, give us time ( don't think it will take 2 million years, but who knows) to adjust and eventually we'll be just as Dominican as the "natives".

Texas Bill

[Tordok]

For those with open curiosity -as if it actually mattered- I happened to remember that she had declared herself Dominican on some posting a few years ago. I did a quick DR1 archival search and here* is a Betsanov post regarding national allegiances, etc.

- Tordok

"always trying to be of service"
* I copied an pasted down here since I don't really know how to create a direct-link to the original page.
.... so if any kind soul out there with the right & quick expertise finds it within his or her heart to share this wisdom via PM to me, please don't be shy.

12-27-2002, 06:32 PM
mariaobetsanov
Silver Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 173
citizenship is not an a right but a privillege

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My parents and brohers became U S citizens but I still maintain my Dominican citizenship. If anybody becomes an citizen of any country he is givinging up his birthright. and it not allowed to certain electoral offfices, to me that is a second class citiizenship. I raher be a first class citizen of a small country than a second class citizen of a great power. In case of an illigal entery the child is not entitle to any of the benefit that a citizen is aloud. I have been in the US since l956 I don't see any difference, except for the right to vote, which most citizen here neglect or avoid doing. I find myself defending my right to choose not to be a citizen that is democracy., but many citizens feel threaten by my atitude. that is my right. Unless you ge involved with a criminals elements/or commit a major crime you would get deported. Legal or illigal residents are at equal footing., where do you all think you getting all the new criminal gangs in DR? New York ,Massachusetts, and Florida and New Jersey, those are iner-city problems area.Those Domincan that are repatriated or deported are stripped of heir US citizenship.

[bienamor]

Originally Posted by Tordok

Those Domincan that are repatriated or deported are stripped of heir US citizenship.

They would be stripped of their residency they cannot be stripped of their citizenship.

[something_of_the_night]

Originally Posted by bienamor

They would be stripped of their residency they cannot be stripped of their citizenship.

Allow The Kid to clear this up:

Tordok did not make the statement you quoted; mariaobetsanov did.

[Tordok]

Originally Posted by something_of_the_night

Allow The Kid to clear this up:

Tordok did not make the statement you quoted; mariaobetsanov did.

Thank you "Kid" for paying attention as indeed the statement quoted by bienamor as Tordok's really belongs to mariaobetsanov.

- Tordok

[something_of_the_night]

Originally Posted by Tordok

Thank you "Kid" for paying attention as indeed the statement quoted by bienamor as Tordok's really belongs to mariaobetsanov.

- Tordok

You are quite welcome.

By the way, I truly enjoy your posts.

[bienamor]

Originally Posted by Tordok

Thank you "Kid" for paying attention as indeed the statement quoted by bienamor as Tordok's really belongs to mariaobetsanov.

- Tordok

Next time I watch my cut and paste, with a closer eye. Sorry Tordok

[Tordok]

bienamor; no need to be sorry, I'm not very good with the technical aspects of posting, so it was confusing because of me, not you.

somethingofthenight; thanks for enjoying my posts....btw, i'll stay off content on this thread.

- Tordok

[mariaobetsanov]

The case in point robbing the state should be treaded as treason., especially by public employee. Public employee are servasnt of the people not self serving. Why it the system still the same. refusal to change, everyone wants their change to steal and do whatever they want. Society usually have rules, and consequnces, reponsibility to action that violate the morn and morality set by the society.

[Funnyyale26]

Originally Posted by mariaobetsanov

The case in point robbing the state should be treaded as treason., especially by public employee. Public employee are servasnt of the people not self serving. Why it the system still the same. refusal to change, everyone wants their change to steal and do whatever they want. Society usually have rules, and consequnces, reponsibility to action that violate the morn and morality set by the society.

I'd be really happy if someone like Fidel Castro or even Trujillo rises to power and ends with all of these ulcers and cancers that are terminating with our society. The death penalty should be implemented also, so that anyone that steals or commit crimes against the state, gets thrown to the Caribbean Sea to be eaten by sharks...a ver si es chicle lo que maca la chiva, carajo..