Who Really Kill Trujillo?????

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Ogre of the Caribbean

SIM = military intelligence

Ogre

You really sound like a scholar - thanks for the info. BTW what is your background? Are you Dominican? I am a very much interested in history and especially the DR now that we have moved to Santiago. If your ever in town look me up and I'll by the beer or a round of golf.

[Chirimoya]

His surnames are Imbert Barrera. Is that the same person you mean, Rob?

[miguel]

Whatever happened to the other Trujillo thread?.

The one with about "500,000" posts and about "1,000,000" views?.

Yeah, the one where Mirador and Joel Pacheco (now Ogre...) wrote about EVERYTHING Trujillo......AND THEN SOME!!!!!.

I wonder, on this one, who will be the first one to start with the "Conspiracy Theories".

Oooops, too late!!.

I know, Chip.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by miguel

Whatever happened to the other Trujillo thread?.

The one with about "500,000" posts and about "1,000,000" views?.

Yeah, the one where Mirador and Joel Pacheco (now Ogre...) wrote about EVERYTHING Trujillo, AND THEN SOME!!!!!.

I wonder, on this one, who will be the first one to start with the "Conspiracy Theories".

I think the OP did that on his original post.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Chirimoya

His surnames are Imbert Barrera. Is that the same person you mean, Rob?

My bad, Imbert Mcgregor is his cousin that lives in Santo Domingo.

Yes, I meant Imbert Barrera and he lives in Constanza.

[Ogre of the Caribbean]

Originally Posted by Chip

Ogre

You really sound like a scholar - thanks for the info. BTW what is your background? Are you Dominican? I am a very much interested in history and especially the DR now that we have moved to Santiago. If your ever in town look me up and I'll by the beer or a round of golf.

Chip, I'm American. I have a history degree and history is one of my hobbies. I've studied Dominican and Haitian history for the last seven years.

[PICHARDO]

Originally Posted by Tallman1818

The is a new book soon to be out call "Generalisimo" is from author Carlos Agramonte, and talks about the major role the CIA play in the killing of Dominican dictator Rafael Leonidas Trujillo Molina (1930 - 1961), in the book the author talks about the CIA send several undercover agents to the country (DR) to plan the assesination of Trujillo.
so my question to you is: Did the United States wanted Trujillo dead because they (USA) did't want "another Cuba in the Caribe" or was it because they (USA) love the Dominican Republic so much and were tired of seeing Trujillo kill "inocents" Dominican citizens.

The fall of Trujillo was a plan that went into effect due to the rising effects of his criminal hands reaching into the very fabric of the military and civil society of the DR.
After the killing of the Mirabal sisters by his orders, many saw the culmination of the real Era this man represented to all Dominicans. The blood was running all over the country and the jails ever more full of his repudiated detractors.
The military was not immune to his routine purges and the spy network that could just as easy brand anyone a plotter and subsequent demise at his "jails".
The SIM "Servicio de Inteligencia Militar" was more a domestic oppression tool than any other good purpose for the nation from foreign enemies. The SIM was just like Stalin's death squads that send millions to their death over nothing.
The CIA was contacted via the US embassy by some of the plotters to seek weapons and political backing after the plot was carried out. They got neither.

Trujillo was felled by Dominicans without CIA supplied weapons (as let known by both survivors Imbert Barrera and Luis Amiama Tio).

Only two survivors that directly participated on the shooting were left after the smoke cleared when his son Ramfis was allowed to stay in the country along his brother and siblings. He was the lead man on the torture and killing of the plotters against Trujillo.

Imbert Barrera was made General Vitalicio "Gral. For Life" of the DR's Armed Forces for his hand on the killing of the Chivo.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by PICHARDO

The fall of Trujillo was a plan that went into effect due to the rising effects of his criminal hands reaching into the very fabric of the military and civil society of the DR.
After the killing of the Mirabal sisters by his orders, many saw the culmination of the real Era this man represented to all Dominicans. The blood was running all over the country and the jails ever more full of his repudiated detractors.
The military was not immune to his routine purges and the spy network that could just as easy brand anyone a plotter and subsequent demise at his "jails".
The SIM "Servicio de Inteligencia Militar" was more a domestic oppression tool than any other good purpose for the nation from foreign enemies. The SIM was just like Stalin's death squads that send millions to their death over nothing.
The CIA was contacted via the US embassy by some of the plotters to seek weapons and political backing after the plot was carried out. They got neither.

Trujillo was felled by Dominicans without CIA supplied weapons (as let known by both survivors Imbert Barrera and Luis Amiama Tio).

Only two survivors that directly participated on the shooting were left after the smoke cleared when his son Ramfis was allowed to stay in the country along his brother and siblings. He was the lead man on the torture and killing of the plotters against Trujillo.

Imbert Barrera was made General Vitalicio "Gral. For Life" of the DR's Armed Forces for his hand on the killing of the Chivo.

Trujillo was responsible for that many killings? That would amount to a large percentage of the population.

[Victor Laszlo]

Chip, the reference was to Stalin's death squads in the USSR I believe, and so more or less accurate.

[Chip]

Originally Posted by Victor Laszlo

Chip, the reference was to Stalin's death squads in the USSR I believe, and so more or less accurate.

Could be but that is not what the following statement says:

The SIM was just like Stalin's death squads that send millions to their death over nothing.