One Island, One Country.

[AlActor]

Talking to a friend the other day, I was little bit puzzle by a queston he asked me:

Do you think, he said, that some day in the future (200, 400 years from now), Dominican Republic and Haiti will become one single country in the same island?

Being a Dominican myself, I found it difficult to respond. Because if you think about it, it's already happening to some extend.

So, I post here the question hoping to get opinions, coments, and views of our future as a growing country sharing a small island.

[catcherintherye]

Well if Obama can get this close to the Presidency with his credentials anything can happen as far as I am concerned

Meaning what, exactly, in terms of AIActor's question?

AIActor, by the way, is a very interesting screen name. Does that refer to All Inclusive Actor, like an animacion performer, or All Inclusive Actor, like as someone who is able to play many different roles, like a sock-puppet, for example?

In any event, it is a valid question, and it deserves a better response than just a cut and pasted post from another thread.

And just when it seemed we were getting to know each other, and getting along so well.

[Frank the Tank]

Oh hell no. Too much difference in cultures and language and economy to make it work.

[cobraboy]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

Oh hell no. Too much difference in cultures and language and economy to make it work.

Especially economy. The DR can barely feed and pay for itself, much less absorb Haiti.

The DR does NOT need Haiti's myriad problems.

[JRMirador]

Any student of world history as a process, not as a chronological succession of individual events, knows that the one nation situation for the island is not only inevitable but it's already happening. Are you aware that Haiti is a non-state with absolutely no possibility of recovery?; that the US, Canada, EU, and most developed states are activily pursuing this situation?; that massive migration from Haiti to DR is currently going on. For example, since the last flooding of Gonaive, about one third of the population of this Haitian city has transfered to the DR?; that the typical Dominican has no main issues, racial or otherwise, regarding Haitians in the DR, and that Dominicans are actually hospitable to the current inflow of Haitians, notwithstanding what the msm or politicians say to the contrary?

[pedrochemical]

Interestingly, (but perhaps of no relevance) my buddy was having dinner with a government minister, various politicians and a few other MINUSTAH (UN) guys here in Haiti, and there is a strong movement both in the States and Haiti for the US to take on Haiti like it took on Puerto Rico. Seriously - this is fairly well progressed in terms of planning.
I hear you laugh, but it makes some kind of sense.
For example, when Aristide was re-installed by the Americans, he had promised as part of the package to sell the Americans Mole St Nicholas. This is at the top left hand corner of Haiti, 50 miles from Cuba and (sort of) across the Windward Passage from Guantanamo bay - thus a strategically important military location.
Aristide went back on his promise and soon after the Americans invaded again.
Also, for the amount of Aid that the US gives, they might as well get something for their cash. Haiti is packed with Minerals yet to be exploited.
With the states in charge of Haiti I could imagine the Dominicans feeling a little happier about the prospect of a joined up island.
For me it would eventually mean that I did not (need to) escape every few months to chill out in the D.R. - which I would miss greatly.
The contrast between life in Haiti and life in the D.R. is one of my favourite things about this island.

[Collingwood]

Originally Posted by JRMirador

Any student of world history as a process, not as a chronological succession of individual events, knows that the one nation situation for the island is not only inevitable but it's already happening. Are you aware that Haiti is a non-state with absolutely no possibility of recovery?; that the US, Canada, EU, and most developed states are activily pursuing this situation?; that massive migration from Haiti to DR is currently going on. For example, since the last flooding of Gonaive, about one third of the population of this Haitian city has transfered to the DR?; that the typical Dominican has no main issues, racial or otherwise, regarding Haitians in the DR, and that Dominicans are actually hospitable to the current inflow of Haitians, notwithstanding what the msm or politicians say to the contrary?

JRMirador - That was awesome. I feel like Scully and that conspiracy theory would make Mulder proud.

You have put a smile on my face on what has other wise been a boring day at work.
I arrived in Gonaive on the first relief boat after the Hurricane and we have had staff there ever since and I can tell you first hand that one third of the city have not gone to the DR although I agree that they probably wish they could. In fact I wish I was there now playing golf and drinking a cold beer!

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by pedrochemical

Interestingly, (but perhaps of no relevance) my buddy was having dinner with a government minister, various politicians and a few other MINUSTAH (UN) guys here in Haiti, and there is a strong movement both in the States and Haiti for the US to take on Haiti like it took on Puerto Rico. Seriously - this is fairly well progressed in terms of planning.
I hear you laugh, but it makes some kind of sense.
For example, when Aristide was re-installed by the Americans, he had promised as part of the package to sell the Americans Mole St Nicholas. This is at the top left hand corner of Haiti, 50 miles from Cuba and (sort of) across the Windward Passage from Guantanamo bay - thus a strategically important military location.
Aristide went back on his promise and soon after the Americans invaded again.
Also, for the amount of Aid that the US gives, they might as well get something for their cash. Haiti is packed with Minerals yet to be exploited.
With the states in charge of Haiti I could imagine the Dominicans feeling a little happier about the prospect of a joined up island.
For me it would eventually mean that I did not (need to) escape every few months to chill out in the D.R. - which I would miss greatly.
The contrast between life in Haiti and life in the D.R. is one of my favourite things about this island.

You mean make Haiti a US Territory?? I can't see that ever happening.

[Bronxboy]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

You mean make Haiti a US Territory?? I can't see that ever happening.

Agreed!!!!!

[DRob]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

You mean make Haiti a US Territory?? I can't see that ever happening.

Agreed. Haiti may receive more US and/or UN support, but they'll stay sovereign - at least from the U.S.

I think we've had enough unilateral nation-building for a while.