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11-06-2008, 02:36 PM
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Leonel's Trips Abroad a Waste of Time?
It's my opinion that President Leonel Fernandez is a sophisticated escape artist, who doesn't miss any opportunity to get himself out of the D.R, for gladhandling visits and worthless conferences, that offer very little real value to the country, while the general populace suffers in 18 hr. a day electricity blackouts and the malaise of poverty.
Does anyone differ in my opinion?
Leonel's 3nd term in office seems to be a complete mirror of his other two terms - to spend as much time as possible out of the country, getting merit medals pinned to his chest, while Dominican businesses are going bankrupt, spending their last peso on fuel for generators.
It's seems to me that Leonel has a problem of staying in the trenches to deal with the multitude of his country's problems.
Comments welcome. Thank you.
Last edited by kingofdice; 11-06-2008 at 02:43 PM..
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11-06-2008, 03:01 PM
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One thing that Leonel has always been good at is charming people for investment dollars.
I think you'll find he's brought in a considerable amount of investment into the DR compared to the days of the PRD.
We think the electricity is bad now, it's still better than the last year of the PRD.
The difference now...People knew the PRD had no chance of fixing the problem, and realized the party was full of chopo's and incompetent people, but the PLD is a little smarter and have a few more brains.
When you live here day in and day out, you see the changes, the good and bad.
Just look at the tax system, it's been revolutionized by the PRD, it's now a very modern system, 100% online and just works and generates huge revenues for the government... funny that 
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11-06-2008, 05:21 PM
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The politically ignorant populace ignore all of that. they eat, drink and vote with their stomachs.
As I read today's report on how the DR was going to lease rights to Arab investors, I wonder how many flips and turns the founders of the country, many of whom lost their lives for opposing any leasing of any Dominican territory, and now Leon-bin-el is doing it for the pay offs his henchmen get.
Sorry but I have yet to see all of this promised investment come to fruition that has benefited anyone except the "come solos"
And, yes, they are very good at collecting taxes and very bad at spendingthe money!!
HB
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11-06-2008, 06:11 PM
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errrr isnt that the job of politicians to go to other countries and meet people- he wouldnt get very far with negptiations if he stayed at home all day-
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11-06-2008, 06:37 PM
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If anyone wud "Wud" wud
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errrr isnt that the job of politicians to go to other countries and meet people- he wouldnt get very far with negptiations if he stayed at home all day-
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In most countries they (politicians) pad their own pockets and f...the people, I see no difference in the DR as I see here, except we seem to get roads built, in the DR they take forever.
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11-08-2008, 02:33 PM
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It is my opinion...
It is my opinion that commentators in this topic are frustrated opposition militants. With one excepcion.
The nature of their comments betray their militancy. They are part of the problem, not of its solution.
There are many things that can be criticized, that should be criticized about the present government. The last one should be the trips abroad. A president locked in his own territory has no hope of coping with the complexities of current problems in any nation.
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11-08-2008, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofdice
It's my opinion that President Leonel Fernandez is a sophisticated escape artist, who doesn't miss any opportunity to get himself out of the D.R, for gladhandling visits and worthless conferences, that offer very little real value to the country, while the general populace suffers in 18 hr. a day electricity blackouts and the malaise of poverty.
Does anyone differ in my opinion?
Leonel's 3nd term in office seems to be a complete mirror of his other two terms - to spend as much time as possible out of the country, getting merit medals pinned to his chest, while Dominican businesses are going bankrupt, spending their last peso on fuel for generators.
It's seems to me that Leonel has a problem of staying in the trenches to deal with the multitude of his country's problems.
Comments welcome. Thank you.
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I do, when Balaguer was in power nobody knew about the Dominican Republic, everytime somebody asked me outside the NY Tri-State area, from where i was from and i said DR, nobody knew, people asked me where is that country located. That's because Balaguer never travel abroad.
Now everybody know about the DR, were almost everybody.
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11-08-2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
The politically ignorant populace ignore all of that. they eat, drink and vote with their stomachs.
As I read today's report on how the DR was going to lease rights to Arab investors, I wonder how many flips and turns the founders of the country, many of whom lost their lives for opposing any leasing of any Dominican territory, and now Leon-bin-el is doing it for the pay offs his henchmen get.
Sorry but I have yet to see all of this promised investment come to fruition that has benefited anyone except the "come solos"
And, yes, they are very good at collecting taxes and very bad at spendingthe money!!
HB
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where did you read that?
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11-08-2008, 05:28 PM
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Where? In the history books...Attempts to lease Samaná Bay were responsible for getting several presidents thrown out...
But that is not the point. The point is that while Leon-bin-el is gallivanting around the world spreading the word about the DR, he is not solving or allowing any one else to solve the nation's most important issues: electricity and the high cost of foodstuffs. (without huge payoffs, that is...)
And please, oh please, tell me about one of these promised billions that have come to fruition. Just one will do...
As for why people in the US know about the DR, I think you can thank Sammy, Manny, Big Pappy, Alberto and a few more for that, not necessarily Leon-bin-el...
HB
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11-08-2008, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
Where? In the history books...Attempts to lease Samaná Bay were responsible for getting several presidents thrown out...
But that is not the point. The point is that while Leon-bin-el is gallivanting around the world spreading the word about the DR, he is not solving or allowing any one else to solve the nation's most important issues: electricity and the high cost of foodstuffs. (without huge payoffs, that is...)
And please, oh please, tell me about one of these promised billions that have come to fruition. Just one will do...
As for why people in the US know about the DR, I think you can thank Sammy, Manny, Big Pappy, Alberto and a few more for that, not necessarily Leon-bin-el...
HB
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When i was in school, it was the Peninsula of Samana that the DR government of that time wanted to leased to the U.S. government, NOT the Arab investors that you mentioned on post#3.
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by hillbilly
As I read today's report on how the DR was going to lease rights to Arab investors, I wonder how many flips and turns the founders of the country, many of whom lost their lives for opposing any leasing of any Dominican territory, and now Leon-bin-el is doing it for the pay offs his henchmen get.
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I want to know where did you read that the Dominican government want to lease some Arab investors who know what?
And who is Leon-bin-el?
You were NOT talking about the Samana bay or the Samana peninsula on your post#3.
What was your point on post#3?
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