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Old 07-15-2007, 04:26 PM
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you still crack me up with your borderline antagonstic prose!! ha ha ha ha


I dont question MIKE....I only wanted clarification( because the question was asked and the answer seemed to be yes and no...when only ONE can be true).

hey if people know before hand what the deal is and they still choose it....who can say anything??

I also dont have a problem mentioning that i think something is NOT a good deal....

this might not be a resident trip....the charter with mike, because I have friends there that love fishing, and they might consider a charter with someone....but for SURE they will want everything they catch.....thus if someone else offered the client their catch, he would be a more attractive charter......

maybe Mike will come back and clarify the yes and no answer.. ha ha ha

bob
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Old 07-15-2007, 07:47 PM
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I hate to say it but it is captains call. He owns the boat. Period. Understand the rules before you go out. Only an ashole would disappoint a customer but hey, buyer be ware. Contact me for fun if you guys like. all I want is gas money.
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Old 07-15-2007, 08:07 PM
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The Captain has spoken!
Let's see in just one post he has managed to insult a paying advertiser, and is soliciting people to pay for his gas.

Then again, how much gas does a 22' Yola burn anyway?

Good fishing!

tambo'
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:43 PM
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laura,
they don't get a tip on top of the sales money.
they sell the fish OR they clean it up for you, which means there's no sales because you take a fish, of course they appreciate a nice tip for not selling and cleaning it up and preparing it for you. i don't see what's bad on that.
local rules in general are more clear: other crews always sell their fish on their own.
have fun
Mike
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:45 PM
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Everyone, thanks for the help.
- $700 per month is more than I wanted to pay but I guess it's almost what it costs here. I was hoping to save some money, since I'd have housing to think about as well. I guess it's a rich mans sport after all?
- eating marlin?...I didn't ask the question and hope most of you would't, although I have kept a few if they were gut hooked and would't survive if thrown back. The smoke houses used to pay pretty good money for them. White marlin is quite good that way.
- The giant bluefin thing I have some experience with. I used to run a boat out of Shinnecock LI back in the 80's. Belive me, the money we got for the giants was way more than anyone would care about from a charter. They'd pay for our season. Close to shore and you could always get somebody to do the tugging for free just so they could say they caught one. Lazy money. For other things like mostly yellowfin, bigeye and makos we'd SOMETIMES, RARELY make a deal ahead of time if we decided to take a party out with us. If it was a run to the canyons, the fish money could add up, but it cost quite a bit to stay out there for two or three days. Usually the party kept a few fish each and everybody was happy. I hear today some boats do things differently and are more generous with the catch. The competition is pretty fierce. I personally think, just my opinion, that the call should go to the boat and be clarified ahead of time. That's what I've always done whenever I've paid for a charter. The way I look at it is, you're paying to go fishing not go into business with the boat. It's a tough business to make a living at...thankfully I didn't and don't and won't have to!!! I know plenty of very good captains who gave up their own boats to run other people's so they could feed their families. And I'd still go out hand lining blufish with them so they'd have bar change.
- the west coast of PR. I'd retire there if I thought I could afford it. That's why I was looking at the east coast of the DR. I know the fishing (and diving) is great and I expect the COL is a bit lower but maybe not anymore with al the development.
- I'll do some more research on Luperon (thanks gringo1). I understand it's a pretty good hurricane hole and it has a couple of serious sea mounts not too far from shore. Chould add up to respectable fishing.
- I don't want to get into personal politics, but I think if you can get a decent charter with good tackle and experience for around a grand, maybe less and housing to boot if you're a steady repeat that's pretty fair. And I doubt there'd be a problem with keeping a fish or two to cook up dockside. Anyway, what's a guy on vacation gonna do with a boat load of fish? It's not just the cost of fuel and crew for the day, campaining a boat costs a lot of money! The hole in the water thing isn't really a joke to most of us. Plus it is after all, supposed to be a business.
- I also think that an offer to split the cost of gas is a pretty generous offer for Capt'n Rob to make to complete strangers to take them out fishing.
Again, thanks for all the help.
All the best.
ryalso
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:46 PM
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Rob57,
of course it will be completely different if the captain owns the boat.
my crews are no boat owners. when i fish myself i never sell a fish and i prepare it on my own for the customers, i was talking in general in the prior posts and not only for my own position.
at the moment in our area there's no other boat run by the owner, all crews work as employes.
Mike
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Old 07-16-2007, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamborista View Post
The Captain has spoken!
Let's see in just one post he has managed to insult a paying advertiser, and is soliciting people to pay for his gas.

Then again, how much gas does a 22' Yola burn anyway?

Good fishing!

tambo'
Couldn't have said it better myself!

Stay well,
Amy
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:09 PM
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ok mike much clearer now...the fish or the tip....not both.
I also would think that the marlin would not be kept. maybe some of the lesser big game fish are thrown into the cooler for eating.....

the crew doesnt keep all the marlin do they?

do you have an average for marlin per trip ?????

when they fish for the marlin on fly tackle do they troll teaser rigs then stop the boat when they have a following fish and cast flies????

thanks

bob
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:34 PM
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hi Laura, now we got it together.
on billfishes we run catch and release for all of them until it isn't the customer who decides to keep his first ever Billie.
starting with the winter season (december) i will also tag and release them, 2 weeks ago a fishing buddy of mine been here with his boat from puerto rico and introduced us in that here still unknown and not practiced technics, i liked it so we will do it.
flyfishing for billfish, istarted that as a testride this years white marlin season, we do the so called "tease and switch" or "bait and switch".
we run 4 teaser line(2 electric controlled from the bridge and 2 manual handled down by the mates) with ballyhoo and lure ballyhoo combos on(of course all hookless), upcoming white marlins (peak season mostly double, tripple hitters or more a time) we teased in a less than 30ft casting range, boat slows the speed down as soon as we are sure they are hot on the baits, but the boat stays on slow speed in gear til the moment at least one is in casting range.
this fall i will start it seriously for our dorado (mahi) schools, on our tests til now we've been most successful with 4 hookless teaserlines running on the outriggers, and a deadbait ballyhoo with hooks in the center, rod up on the bridge, so when the school comes up we hooked one on the center line, brought him closer to the boat, boat out of gears, like that the school stays with the boat within casting range for a long while, you can take out several dorados each flyrod(we cast max 2 flies at a time on dorados, on billfish of course only one).
have fun
Mike
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:18 PM
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My intention was not offend anyone. I am just a direct person. Like I said it is the captains boat big or small it is his. He assumes all liability for this. I do not permit hard booze on my boat. Beer wine OK. It is had to control a drunk 30 miles off shore in 5 foot seas. My comment on the gas on my boat it is split between on who wants to go. Remember I am the one that has the 25,000 dollars investment here. All I want to do i s have fun. All of the rods are mine tackle coolers, lures and 30 years of experience mine. Plus I have full insurance and a club with pool and rest. too boot. I started catch and release in Monte Cristi back in 1999 when no one else was doing it. Spent my money and gave away the tags. Had a table with all the brochures printed in Spanish and car tags too. Even where to buy the tag sticks at a discount. Through the Bill Fish Foundation. So just because someone advertises no one else should have an opinion. I have been on many boats where it is customary for the crew to keep the catch. You get one maybe two fish to eat. Capt. Mike knows of this practice. I was just responding to the post and know nothing of his operation. Sorry Capt. if I offended you that was not my intention.
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