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  #81  
Old 04-28-2004, 08:51 PM
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Now that we're on the subject of waste disposal and aborigenes with stolen souls, have any of you heard that there's a nuclear waste hidden in the Barahona peninsula? and that this is the main reason this beautiful region is off limits for tourism projects? I've heard this over the years in informal conversations, and once overheard a German government agent especifically saying so. Over twentyfive years ago, a campesino on the road to Cabo Rojo confided to me that he had watched stuff downloaded from aircraft and placed into a cave where several meters of concrete were later dumped over it. Then again, the area is well known for its ufo sightings.

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Old 04-28-2004, 09:00 PM
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I have never heard about that... that sounds really interesting, ufo sightings?? many places claim to be THE best site for ufo sightings... anyway, what i heard about barahona, there is a place where magnetic phenomenom occurs... would I link that with nuclear waste?, I wouldn't.

Anyway, it is interesting to know... But we have to be careful, between dioxin contamination and nuclear wastes... this country has no future in the tourism business!!!

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Old 04-28-2004, 10:24 PM
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Default Environmentalist Mr. tochel

To me it seems that Sr. tochel has a very exclusive opinion about things that happen in places far away from his home in Switzerland.
I remember that he chose to ban me from his forum when I contradicted his opinion which maintained that CDN was a DR-government propaganda TV-station.
Beware, anybody not sharing Mr. tochel's view is up for an
attack by him and his disciples.

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Old 04-30-2004, 07:56 PM
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it is not nessesary to repeat the danger of the rockash.
greenpeace has no political and commercial interests.
let's see what the test results from england are meaning, then we know more.
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Old 05-02-2004, 09:12 AM
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Default Marchan en contra rockash

http://www.hoy.com.do/(wxvxd34533aqi....aspx?id=12616

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Old 05-03-2004, 04:03 PM
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@jessica
THIS is the stuff from there it comes from, an the people there was fighting against, 8 years ago:
http://www.moles.org/ProjectUndergro.../98082103.html
Tochel, do you know what diesel emissions are like in comparison to coal combusted in a furnace for power generation? How about Bunker C crude oil, or #6 Fuel Oil which is so thick that is has to be heated to a couple of hundred degrees before you can even pump it to the burners? Part of this is sarcasm, but part of me would also like to see you look into this to see just how dirty the fuel sources in the DR really are. Coal fired generation may be the cleaner alternative to what you are using now.

You sound like a person that loves to raise alarm bells and tends to blow things out of proportion. Are you upset that there is ash being sent to the DR, or are you honestly concerned about the health implications of it? All the motoconcho exhaust, diesel fired and oil fired generation are something you ought to start working on reducing if you are truly interested in improving environmental conditions that affect people's health in the DR. Not to say that there is not a valid point to be made about whether or not PR should be shipping ash to the DR, but to sound the alarm as though a pristine wilderness is being forever destroyed by some toxic waste from another country is a stretch to say the least.

The post on the incinerator ash is misleading and detrimental not only to your credibility (by saying it seems to be the same stuff) but also to the credibility of many posters who take this to be the truth and pass on the misinformation.

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Old 05-04-2004, 07:56 PM
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Senador reclamará por daños rockash

"Ese material produce enfermedades terminales, produce enfermedades que ninguno de nosotros, dentro de cinco o seis años, vamos a tener con que curarlas, porque está comprobado, aunque quieran decir lo contrario, que eso es lesivo a la salud" afirmó.
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Old 05-23-2004, 07:07 PM
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Default A new shipment of 6000 tons of excelent ROCKASH is coming to the DR

Una barcaza viene con 6,000 Tons del "excelente material" Rockash de la planta de la AES en Puerto Rico. Detengamos esta contaminación por el manejo impropio y disposción final de este material altamente contaminante de la RD!! Esto no es más que un sucio negocio de unos cuantos compañeritos del PRD combinados con un plan claramente dirigido por los sectores turisticos de Puerto Rico, bajo el auspicio de las autoridades federales, para darle la mala promoción a la RD como un destino turistico contaminado y desviar nuestro turismo hacia PR y las islas virgenes!! De otra forma no hay manera que la AES se pudiera burlar la vigilancia de la EPA y demás autoridades federales de protección ambiental de Puerto Rico!!

The vessels data of this new shipment are:
barge name : WINDBRIDGE tug name: EL MORRO (own by Southern Puerto Rican Towing) they will arrive this week!!

a new shipment of AES'power plant in Puerto Rico Rockash is coming again to the DR, possibly to Samana. Lets stop this hazardous material unsafe dumping and disposal in the DR!! Why Puertoricans are so dumb and stupid and export this "excellent and harmless material" to the DR when they should be using it in their homeland?? They are so stupid that they are paying for this over US$4,000,000 !! How much AES must be paying to Puerto Rico' EPA officials to get these export permits??

Last edited by Holsteinson; 05-24-2004 at 11:35 AM.. Reason: more confirmed data on the vessels of this new shipment!!
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Old 05-25-2004, 05:08 PM
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Default Results from Greenpeace

Samana Draft Letter
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Old 05-25-2004, 06:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tochel
Tochel, the link you posted does not lead to a draft letter, or anything besides a general page in your favorite discussion forum, which in any case is in German, which most of us here do not read.

Either fix the link so it leads to something that makes a substantive contritbution to this thread, or your last post will be deleted. We're not here to advertise another discussion forum.

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