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Old 03-28-2004, 06:07 AM
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Default Toxics in Samana?

tonns of contaminated material in samana!!!
==> DANGER FO THE WHOLE ISLE!!!

the toxic material: dioxin-laden soot, sulfur dioxide
...AES plant emits sulfur dioxide, which causes asthma, emphysema and lung hemorrhages; as well as almost 5,000 kilogrammes of dioxin-laden soot a day..."

DIOXIN IS EXTREMELY DANGGEROUS
- 10'000 times more dangerous as cyanid!
- mimilar to agent-orange
http://archive.greenpeace.org/toxics...d.html#Summary

produced in: Guayama, Puerto Rico
the company: AES Corporation
http://www.aes.com/index.asp
http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/i...AES&script=2100

in puerto rico:
http://www.ahbeck.com/eng/Projects/AES_Guayama.htm

more links about the company:
http://www.moles.org/ProjectUndergr...1/98082103.html

http://www.google.ch/search?q=cache...&hl=de&ie=UTF-8

http://www.foe.org/camps/intl/world...rt/section4.htm

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Old 03-28-2004, 02:21 PM
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Default This could be a bomb!

It is obvious to me and to most thinking people: There MUST be some reason why they want to get rid of the stuff froom Puerto Rico.

That said, just who allowed it to come here and how much did they take under the table? Was it ever analyzed before coming here??? What about all those people that are scrambling all over the piles of stuff ïnvestigating" the problem...????/

"Rockash" 'sounds' innocuous enough, doesn't it? If this stuff contains dioxin, we are in deep-deep-deep schies. I mean, like, you know, who the phuck is gonna take this off our hands?

Oh, hey, I got an idea! We "nationalize" the AES generation facility in Andrés and Los Mina!!! With the money we make selling that electricity, we pay for the disposal of this dioxin (toxic) waste!!.

No that won't work, we need a government that thinks with the upper portion of the body-above the neck part....

Anyway, this is a serious posting

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Old 03-28-2004, 04:25 PM
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Default Dioxin Contamination

I have yet to hear about one single government member of this country who would accept any responsibility for anything.
Whoever gave his signature to permit this import of (toxic) waste violated the law.
No official will be brought to book, the secretary will not resign, the stuff will not be shipped back to where it came from, neither the amount of bribe money nor its recipients will ever been known.
These corrupt people sell everything, from natural resources to the lives of people.
Froggy,
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Old 03-28-2004, 05:34 PM
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Default do not resign! help also!!

we can do a lot. but we need your help!
1. send emails to: media, tourism companies, hotels of the area, friends, politics, greenpeace,...
2. inform people of this area that it is extremly dangerous to be neart of this material or to eat fishes

more people who're helping, more pressure to the company and politics!

that material has to be removed from samana!
i will not stop fighting against until all material is removed!!
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:16 PM
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Where is this sulpher dioxide material? And why have I not heard a word from anyone in Samana about 60 people and two babies (that you reported in your other post) getting sick from it or from any other toxin or reason? In a population as small as the peninsula, that's an epidemic.

When I pass by the port I don't see any signs of piles of this stuff, either on the big pier or on the nearby grounds. If they have dumped as much as you say they have it would be evident, even to the casual motorist passing by the port on the highway.
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Old 03-29-2004, 06:49 AM
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As I don't speak Spanish well enough to read the news in that language, I rely on my news in English from DR1. Also, I speak absolutely no German so your DR-Rep link is of no use to me.

Again I ask: Where are the piles of this stuff located? I'd like to see and photograph them. Surely you can answer that.
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Old 03-29-2004, 07:25 AM
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Arroyo Barril, en Samaná
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Old 03-29-2004, 08:48 AM
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Torchel,
Several posts before in this thread I reported that I passed by the port (Arroyo Barril) recently as I do every week or so and I have not seen any piles of anything (and only on occassion, a freighter tied up to the pier). For a while there was some old construction debris on the pier near the passenger facility (the debris had been there for several years). You reported some 50 tons of this has been deposited in the port. That's the equivalent of about 50 dump trucks full and that makes a hell of a big pile of sand. Have you seen this yourself? If so tell us.

I will visit the port in the next day or so and I will report my observations.
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Old 03-29-2004, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy B
Torchel,
Several posts before in this thread I reported that I passed by the port (Arroyo Barril) recently as I do every week or so and I have not seen any piles of anything (and only on occassion, a freighter tied up to the pier). For a while there was some old construction debris on the pier near the passenger facility (the debris had been there for several years). You reported some 50 tons of this has been deposited in the port. That's the equivalent of about 50 dump trucks full and that makes a hell of a big pile of sand. Have you seen this yourself? If so tell us.

I will visit the port in the next day or so and I will report my observations.
Andy, the Arroyo Barril location and the 50 ton figure were provided in the Spanish-language press (see, for example, the Diario Libre report). He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Torchel is just repeating what he has read.
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