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08-23-2004, 09:17 PM
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Damn!...ERICKXSON for president. 2008-2012.
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08-24-2004, 03:43 AM
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I would love to see the back of the conchos  but getting rid of them is going to be very difficult. Only a very brave politician would risk the ire of the drivers' unions and the passengers themselves. To placate the public, bus and metro fares would have to be comparable to concho fares. The drivers would demand compensation and are sure to raise hell for losing their livelihoods.
I used to live and work in Caracas where the metro runs like a spine through the centre of the city. You still have to take the more chaotic and popular 'por puestos' (minibuses) from surrounding neighbourhoods down to the nearest metro station. My commute from San Bernardino to Las Mercedes involved a metro ride with one por puesto at each end. I would have never dreamed of driving, and although Caracas has never really cracked its gargantuan traffic congestion problem, it has a wonderful metro used by the carless and car owners alike.
One of the things I dislike most about living in Santo Domingo is that anyone who has a choice (including me) chooses to use the car. I look forward to the day when there is a realistic alternative like an integrated bus-metro system which means I can leave the damn thing at home.
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08-24-2004, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
And about the electricity deal, these metro trains would probably have their own planta generating electricity somewhere just for them. In addition to that, each train car could have some solar panels installed on the roof of the cars to create even more energy for the system.
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Do you have any idea how many watts or MW those solar panels would produce on the underground Metro as proposed?
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08-24-2004, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Argo
Do you have any idea how many watts or MW those solar panels would produce on the underground Metro as proposed?
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Don't confuse the word metro with what the word means in the rest of the world.
Example: Metro in rest of the world means a subway system or for those of you Londoners the Tube.
Metro in the DR for now means those comfy coach buses speaking along the highways, but in this thread it is referred to the monorail that has been planned for Santo Domingo since 1996!
They were not planning to do an underground thing, its all "al aire libre".
But to answer your question, solar panels would produce none watts, but since its a monorail type of thing being proposed (and with this Caribbean sun that anybody can cook an egg in minutes out there) a solar panel might produce enough to get it through during a "normal" blackout.
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08-24-2004, 10:04 PM
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My 2 Cents
Im being generally optimistic but I hope 10 years from now this thing [name pending] will be built. I will cry of happiness the day I see GuaGuas publicas and carros publicos abolished, they ruin vacations. Even though this thread is about the Metro I want give some input on how to damage the current "transport" system.
Create laws:
1) No old cars aloud [pre-1995] thats about 98.0% of these drivers.
2) Only legal Taxi Services can pick up passengers, example Yellow Cabs in NYC, DR needs a Yellow Cab service/ system.
3) Every car must pass inspections and 4 passenger limit [including driver]
4) Buses can only stop/ pick up on designated posts, I have been scared to death on HighWays as these buses stop randomly in the middle of 100km zone, gotta be stop.
5) Also Companies/ Union Buses can operate, no independant buses.
6) Create a special police force to monitor this problem in every city. Those who dont comply will first get fined, repeat get jail time, and if they repeat again get everything confiscated. Also creation of government office so the government can also win something.
But back to the Metro I hope this government can build something anything to eliminate he traffic problem.
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08-24-2004, 10:11 PM
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I like CampoDominicano's ideas on this, especially #2.
All the authorized taxis should be new VW Beattles! Everybody (including the illiterate and foreign tourist) will be able to distinguish an authentic authorize taxi from the phonies. And it will make it easier for the police to crack down on the non-beattles picking up and dropping off mass numbers of people!
Imagine, the streets of Santo Domingo flooded with new Beattles!
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08-25-2004, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
Don't confuse the word metro with what the word means in the rest of the world.
Example: Metro in rest of the world means a subway system or for those of you Londoners the Tube.
Metro in the DR for now means those comfy coach buses speaking along the highways, but in this thread it is referred to the monorail that has been planned for Santo Domingo since 1996!
They were not planning to do an underground thing, its all "al aire libre".
But to answer your question, solar panels would produce none watts, but since its a monorail type of thing being proposed (and with this Caribbean sun that anybody can cook an egg in minutes out there) a solar panel might produce enough to get it through during a "normal" blackout.
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It must be my reading comprehension yet again, but for some reason the original post seemed to indicate an underground system, my mistake yet again :-(
I may have missed something over the last few months, but I only noticed that there were plans to construct an underground transport system for Santo Domingo when people started mentioning the controversial appointment of Diandino Pena to oversee this project.
From the BBC News website
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Diandino Pena, an ex-public works secretary, is appointed to head a subway construction project.
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08-25-2004, 02:06 AM
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Yes, I thought that, originally, but everything I've read in Spanish (El Caribe etc) seems to be suggesting that it could be either above or below ground, depending on the feasibility study. If it IS below ground, what use would solar panels be? Unless the "parking" area was in the sun to stock up.
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08-25-2004, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Argo
It must be my reading comprehension yet again, but for some reason the original post seemed to indicate an underground system, my mistake yet again :-(
I may have missed something over the last few months, but I only noticed that there were plans to construct an underground transport system for Santo Domingo when people started mentioning the controversial appointment of Diandino Pena to oversee this project.
From the BBC News website
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Diandino Pena, an ex-public works secretary, is appointed to head a subway construction project.
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It might be an underground deal, but when this project was first presented to the public (back in 1996), it was a over ground monorail type of thing. Here is the link:
Notice: the project was presented in both English and Spanish, for English click on "English Version" in the upper left corner. Also, notice that the Monorail project was part of the overall Transportation Project that was implemented in the city. The widening of many major roads, the new expressways, and the tunnels found across Santo Domingo, and the new Juan Bosch Bridge are only a part of the overall Transportation Project for the city. The project also included the light rail system to be implemented as well.
http://www.modelistica.com/projects/...omingo_en.html
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08-25-2004, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
It might be an underground deal, but when this project was first presented to the public (back in 1996), it was a over ground monorail type of thing. Here is the link:
Notice: the project was presented in both English and Spanish, for English click on "English Version" in the upper left corner. Also, notice that the Monorail project was part of the overall Transportation Project that was implemented in the city. The widening of many major roads, the new expressways, and the tunnels found across Santo Domingo, and the new Juan Bosch Bridge are only a part of the overall Transportation Project for the city. The project also included the light rail system to be implemented as well.
http://www.modelistica.com/projects/...omingo_en.html
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I am sure there are dozens or "proposals, ideas etc" I thought I would be silly and stick to the question posed by the original poster, stupid me :-( thinking I could gather his intent from what he wrote rather than what everyone else surmised and concluded
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