Needless Dominican Deaths

[NALs]

Originally Posted by Keith R

Oh, my mistake! If you define "doing something" as proposing nonsensical projects, then in that sense, yes, the current Administration has attempted something regarding air pollution. My definition of "doing something" is a bit more demanding, however.


Funny, you lecturing the Forum's moderator on what is and what is not "beyond the scope of this thread." I must have missed the memo from Dolores & Robert leaving you in charge...

Keith,

Did you not see the words WOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE, MIGHT HAVE BEEN, etc.

Do you know what those words means?

Hint: could have been so, if it was implemented, but since it was not....

And about your second response, deny that its not beyond the scope of this thread. Go right ahead.... apparently you feel the need to post something anti-nal's posts so go right ahead, nobody is stopping you...

-NAL

[NALs]

Originally Posted by HOWMAR

My lungs inspire the same amount of air no matter how large the island I am standing on....

But the winds blow much more constantly over small flat islands than rugged moutainous islands where the mountains block the winds and shifts wind patterns on a local level.

Ever wonder why its dustier in the Cibao than along the north coast?

Ever wonder why it rains more in Puerto Plata than in Santiago?

Ever wonder why its windier in Puerto Plata than in Santiago?

Hint: Cordillera Septentrional is part of the reason.

Have not noticed the difference, take a trip and notice.

Why is San Juan province drier and warmer than Santiago province?

Hint: Cordillera Central has something to do with it.

Stop comparing small flat islands to this country, its totally uncomparable.

When was the last time you saw a forest or abundant rain falling on flat Caribbean nations? When?

Exactly, most of the rain, all of the forests, and the most arable land are on mountanous islands. Thus, mountainous and flat islands are not comparable!

-NAL

[Keith R]

Originally Posted by Nal0whs

The dust in this country is atrocious, you can see it lined along the road, its in the houses (which adds to the constant cleaning demands), it causes people to cough alot, etc.

Even in south Florida, the dust storms that blow off Africa, affects that region as well.

This is not to say that it's the only aspect of the pollution, because its not, but it is an aspect that was not being addressed in this thread until I brought it up.

As usual, there is always someone who likes to initiate a debate with me. All I was doing was balancing the thread, take another look so you can see it.

Never did I implied Leonel should not tackle this problem, in fact, I never even mentioned the government and it's attention towards this problem.

Not to mention that I did not DENIED the other more constant flow of pollution, but that does not makes the dust a welcomed addition.

The dust is clearl for everyone to see.

Yes, to your credit, in the past you have also questioned the wisdom of the metro idea, and in your prior post in this thread you acknowledged some of the vehicle emissions. And true, dust contributes -- although, in point of fact, you originally said SAND, not dust.

The thing is, Nals, whenever someone brings up an issue that the government is dodging, you jump in and offer excuses and/or other reasons for the problem identified. Of course you did not mention the governments and its (in)attention to the problem -- because you'd rather talk about something else. Just like when people on DR1 raise corruption, overbloated government payrolls, etc., you talk about debt loads or just about anything but what the government can do to address such problems. All in the name of what you, Nals, deem to be "balance" and "truth."

[Larry]

Originally Posted by Keith R

All in the name of what you, Nals, deem to be "balance" and "truth."

Be prepeared for a very looooooong, drawn out, boring response. By the time you finish reading it, you will forget what the topic was.

I am going to take a "power nap" to conserve some energy to read it.

Larry

[Keith R]

Originally Posted by Nal0whs

And about your second response, deny that its not beyond the scope of this thread. Go right ahead.... apparently you feel the need to post something anti-nal's posts so go right ahead, nobody is stopping you...

-NAL

And how, pray tell us, is it beyond the scope of this thread to discuss how the problem identified by the original poster is or not being addressed? You're not making sense, Nals.

[NALs]

Originally Posted by Keith R

Yes, to your credit, in the past you have also questioned the wisdom of the metro idea, and in your prior post in this thread you acknowedged some of the vehicle emissions. And true, dust contributes -- although, in point of fact, you originally said SAND, not dust.

The thing is, Nals, whenever someone brings up an issue that the government is dodging, you jump in and offer excuses and/or other reasons for the problem identified. Of course you did not mention the governments and its (in)attention to the problem -- because you'd rather talk about something else. Just like when people on DR1 raise corruption, overbloated government payrolls, etc., you talk about debt loads or just about anything but what the government can do to address such problems. All in the name of what you, Nals, deem to be "balance" and "truth."

In the name of the reader.

I have often complained of the often onesided approach that tends to prevail on threads in this board.

Since people here are bent on one side, I will make it my duty to present the other side.

A balance view of the world is much better than a one sided one.

People here simply don't like it when I show the other side of the coin, but tough!

-NAL

[HOWMAR]

Originally Posted by Nal0whs

But the winds blow much more constantly over small flat islands than rugged moutainous islands where the mountains block the winds and shifts wind patterns on a local level.

Ever wonder why its dustier in the Cibao than along the north coast?

Ever wonder why it rains more in Puerto Plata than in Santiago?

Ever wonder why its windier in Puerto Plata than in Santiago?

Hint: Cordillera Septentrional is part of the reason.

Have not noticed the difference, take a trip and notice.

Why is San Juan province drier and warmer than Santiago province?

Hint: Cordillera Central has something to do with it.

Stop comparing small flat islands to this country, its totally uncomparable.

When was the last time you saw a forest or abundant rain falling on flat Caribbean nations? When?

Exactly, most of the rain, all of the forests, and the most arable land are on mountanous islands. Thus, mountainous and flat islands are not comparable!

-NAL

You have progressed from making little sense to making no sense at all. Oh, by the the way, that mountain I had to drive over to go from one side of St. John to the other is a killer.

[NALs]

Originally Posted by Keith R

And how, pray tell us, is it beyond the scope of this thread to discuss how the problem identified by the original poster is or not being addressed? You're not making sense, Nals.

You were gearing the discussion towards whether the metro was a good/bad decision and this thread is not about the metro!

Regardless if you are the moderator of this thread, that still does not changes the fact that this thread is not about the metro!

You wanted an answer to what Leonel would have been doing towards the issue of pollution, the metro certainly would have given people another mode of transportation as oppose to smoke belching cars and buses. I also made note of the negative view that was received with and that was that.

Anything else about the metro is not in accordance with the purpose and title of this thread, regardless of who the moderator is.

-NAL

[NALs]

Originally Posted by HOWMAR

You have progressed from making little sense to making no sense at all. Oh, by the the way, that mountain I had to drive over to go from one side of St. John to the other is a killer.

Oh yeah, it must be in the 3,000 meters range, right?!

Give it a rest...

Pick up a book about earth's geology, the occurence of specific types of climates, and how wind patterns, mountainous terrain, and small coral flat islands develop their microclimates.

Certainly would help in clarifying what I am saying.

It's obvious that I often overestimate what people know in terms of common knowledge.

-NAL

For anyone not noticing, the thread is going off course.

[Keith R]

Originally Posted by Nal0whs

You were gearing the discussion towards whether the metro was a good/bad decision and this thread is not about the metro!

Regardless if you are the moderator of this thread, that still does not changes the fact that this thread is not about the metro!

You wanted an answer to what Leonel would have been doing towards the issue of pollution, the metro certainly would have given people another mode of transportation as oppose to smoke belching cars and buses. I also made note of the negative view that was received with and that was that.

Anything else about the metro is not in accordance with the purpose and title of this thread, regardless of who the moderator is.

-NAL

Nals,
Wordsmith all you want, but you suggested the metro was a policy response to the air pollution problem. I am responding, in the name of your much cherished "balance," that the metro was not a serious response to the air pollution problem -- in fact, I have my doubts that air pollution figured stongly and seriously in the proposal's development at all. I suggested -- re-read my prior posts -- that there were other motivations, not pollution abatement, in play.

And no matter what you post, Nals, this is in line with the thread's subject matter, no matter who or what you really are.

Keith