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Old 07-26-2006, 03:18 PM
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Default Gas generators

Anyone have any experience with gas generators.

Locally I notice one that is being promoted is the Eaton Cutler-Hammer. I notice the bigger one is 15K.

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Old 07-26-2006, 06:46 PM
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Havent seen those, please send me some info if you can. Where did you see them?
I would be afraid of having that crappy gas burning smell around though....then again diesel smells really crappy too.
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:52 PM
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Default Gas vs diesel gensets

Gas stationary generators operate on Propane (LPG) or Natural Gas (CNG) fuels. The generators offer extremely quiet operation - less than 70 dB(A) at 7 m (you can easily talk to someone else standing beside the unit). Full 2-wire automatic start for integration with generator start inverters or manual remote switch comes with the unit.

Many homes already have a large propane tank that is occasionally filled by a truck. These generators can tie into that system, bringing an end to constant hauling in of diesel fuel. In addition, The propane tank can now supply fuel for the oven, DHW, clothes dryer etc, reducing electricity consumpion.

Everyone knows about the poor quality of diesel fuel in the DR. Genset fuel filters, injectors and pistons often get damaged or plugged.

In the future, a 20% hydrogen gas can easily mix with propane to reduce fuel cost without any modifications to the engine. This mixture is knowed as “hythane”. The Hydrogen can be obtained via electrolysis using renewables such as solar panels or wind turbines.

Gas generators are priced less than diesel gensets. Propane residential subsidy (DR) reduces fuel cost. Emmisions are much lower than diesel.

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Old 07-26-2006, 10:09 PM
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I have a 12K LPG powered generator made by Kohler. I imported it into the country, but they are sold in DR by Ferreteria Americana. It is very quiet when operating and meets the needs for our house, including running the AC.
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:25 PM
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Gas stationary generators operate on Propane (LPG) or Natural Gas (CNG) fuels. The generators offer extremely quiet operation - less than 70 dB(A) at 7 m (you can easily talk to someone else standing beside the unit). Full 2-wire automatic start for integration with generator start inverters or manual remote switch comes with the unit.

Many homes already have a large propane tank that is occasionally filled by a truck. These generators can tie into that system, bringing an end to constant hauling in of diesel fuel. In addition, The propane tank can now supply fuel for the oven, DHW, clothes dryer etc, reducing electricity consumpion.

Everyone knows about the poor quality of diesel fuel in the DR. Genset fuel filters, injectors and pistons often get damaged or plugged.

In the future, a 20% hydrogen gas can easily mix with propane to reduce fuel cost without any modifications to the engine. This mixture is knowed as “hythane”. The Hydrogen can be obtained via electrolysis using renewables such as solar panels or wind turbines.

Gas generators are priced less than diesel gensets. Propane residential subsidy (DR) reduces fuel cost. Emmisions are much lower than diesel.

Georgios
Georgios
Where can I get more information about this? I am building a home on the north coast and I know I need a generator. The builder is pushing a diesel, but I would prefer gas for the same attractive reasons you mentioned. I would be concerned about price and service. Although I know I can buy an LP generator in the US for about $4000 for a 15kw.
Mark
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:06 AM
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The Americana is selling the Kohler gas generators as stated above. I wrote to them and they tell me they have 8.5 and 12kW generators on stock. They have ordered 30kW ones and can import other sizes. The contact is Luis Jose Prieto. His email is LPrieto@americana.com.do
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:50 AM
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I asked my guys and all the reports echo what has been said.
Go Gas!! cheaper, quieter and long lasting, with proper maintenence...

HB
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:28 PM
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It's been a long time since we played golf together at Las Aromas HB. I may be able to squeeze a round of golf this coming September...I'll call first to let you know. Perhaps we could get Grahame to join in...adds a little spice into the game.
Georgios.
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:43 PM
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I asked my guys and all the reports echo what has been said.
Go Gas!! cheaper, quieter and long lasting, with proper maintenence...

HB
Just to clarify the Hythane issue I would caution everyone to avoid injecting hydrogen into their gas generators. It is quite dangerous. I am testing this
principle using "on demand H2" which means the produced hydrogen is injected without storing it. Will post results when testing is completed.

Hythane info can be found at http://www.hythane.com/

Georgios.
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:18 PM
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Just to clarify the Hythane issue I would caution everyone to avoid injecting hydrogen into their gas generators. It is quite dangerous. I am testing this principle using "on demand H2" which means the produced hydrogen is injected without storing it.
I don't think that any of us will try messing around with hydrogen since it's not the easiest thing to get your hands on. That said, like georgios stated, it is very dangerous since it can easily create a very serious explosion.
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