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03-02-2008, 11:54 AM
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From what I understand, even if there is a law here against this it wouldn't be enforced anyway! 
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03-02-2008, 12:47 PM
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Gee... ...let me guess which religion those "scientists" belong to that say the current cooling period is an anomoly... ...that really, really it's getting warmer...
('Course, Mars has been cooling, too, during the same period the earth has...)
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03-02-2008, 12:50 PM
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Just wondering if there is a law against this or perhaps we should collectively use our individual beliefs (rule of the person) into action.  |
"Reasonable" men, taking personal responsibility for their actions by not initiating force upon another, wouldn't just dump oil on any property, even their own. But "unreasonable" men will initiate force (dump oil on someone elses property); therefore the need for Rule of Law exists.
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03-02-2008, 01:45 PM
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Amen to that......and also please don't run that SUV because no matter how you look at it pollutants are coming out the tailpipe.
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03-02-2008, 01:53 PM
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Amen to that......and also please don't run that SUV because no matter how you look at it pollutants are coming out the tailpipe. |
Not my SUV. It blows rainbows, butterflies and cute kittens out the tailpipe... ...it's the other guy's SUV that is pure eeeeeevil...
(I'll quit driving an SUV when Algore quits flying a private jet...  )
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03-02-2008, 02:02 PM
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Oh I see sounds like another personal thingy with you....again.
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03-02-2008, 08:05 PM
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Oh I see sounds like another personal thingy with you....again. |
I'm a "reasonable" man. Nothing personal until someone else initiates force...
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03-03-2008, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cobraboy
"Reasonable" men, taking personal responsibility for their actions by not initiating force upon another, wouldn't just dump oil on any property, even their own. But "unreasonable" men will initiate force (dump oil on someone elses property); therefore the need for Rule of Law exists.
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Unfortunately dumping oil an your or your neighbor's property is going to affect both of you sooner or later .. no matter whose property the dumping is being done on. So, the principle of initiating 'force' is fast becoming truly hard to pin point. So, your SUV may be the straw that broke the camel's back and you have to face the rest of the rest of us proletariat type folks that have to eat your emissions/polutants.
(Yes, yes I know, it is the Chinese .. it is all their fault. (sic) ) The complete picture is fast becoming unreasonable and does not fit to a pre-determined philosophical ideal. Dammit! it was suppose to.
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03-03-2008, 09:10 AM
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Unfortunately dumping oil an your or your neighbor's property is going to affect both of you sooner or later .. no matter whose property the dumping is being done on. So, the principle of initiating 'force' is fast becoming truly hard to pin point. So, your SUV may be the straw that broke the camel's back and you have to face the rest of the rest of us proletariat type folks that have to eat your emissions/polutants.
(Yes, yes I know, it is the Chinese .. it is all their fault. (sic) ) The complete picture is fast becoming unreasonable and does not fit to a pre-determined philosophical ideal. Dammit! it was suppose to.
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Chris, I breath the same air you do. And, no, I certainly don't advocate dumping oil on anyone's property.
If one has no core belief's, than what do they use for a guiding force in their lives? The prevailing orthodoxy? Tea leaves? A talking head? A Feel-Good guru?
A person can only truly control themselves, and can only hope to affect the behavior of those within their sphere of influence. Pontificating on a message board is like peeing in a pair of dark wool pants: you may feel all warm and fuzzy, but nobody else sees the results...
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03-03-2008, 10:58 AM
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A person can only truly control themselves, and can only hope to affect the behavior of those within their sphere of influence. Pontificating on a message board is like peeing in a pair of dark wool pants: you may feel all warm and fuzzy, but nobody else sees the results...
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LOL. Did you read what you just wrote?
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