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03-03-2008, 11:01 AM
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LOL. Did you read what you just wrote?
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Still stalking me, Chris? 
Yes, I read what I wrote. Yes, it applies to me, too. And you. And everyone.
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03-03-2008, 11:29 AM
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Great analogy!!! I don´t agree wholeheartedly because I think if a point is well made and those reading are intellectually honest, one´s point might be accepted and bahaviors modified.
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03-04-2008, 11:20 AM
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The NYT science reporter Andrew C. Revkin has some very good articles like the one I previously posted (#167). The article has good links to the subject on hand. His articles are as balanced as possible, but the scientific evidence leads to the anthropogenic cause.....
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But instead I stayed up late examining the latest maneuver in the never-ending tussle between opponents of limits on greenhouse gases who are using holes in climate science as ammunition and those trying to raise public concern about a human influence on climate that an enormous body of research indicates, in the worst case, could greatly disrupt human affairs and ecosystems.
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It describes the meeting for what it is: a gathering of scientists, economists and individuals, some with industry ties but many driven mainly by libertarian passions or a nonconformist streak, who have hugely varied views on what’s up with climate (see the news story for a few details). The one thing all the attendees seem to share is a deep dislike for mandatory restrictions on greenhouse gases.
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bold mine
The Never-Ending Story - Dot Earth - Climate Change and Sustainability - New York Times Blog
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03-06-2008, 05:37 PM
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03-06-2008, 07:03 PM
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That report is such an incorrect piece of trash completely pulled out of context. The two scientist that were quoted, said .. (and these are the correct quotes)...
"It's nice to know that the ice is recovering," Josefino Comiso, a senior research scientist with the Cryospheric Sciences Branch of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Centre in Maryland, told CBC News on Thursday.
"That means that maybe the perennial ice would not go down as low as last year."
Canadian scientists are also noticing growing ice coverage in most areas of the Arctic, including the southern Davis Strait and the Beaufort Sea.
"Clearly, we're seeing the ice coverage rebound back to more near normal coverage for this time of year," said Gilles Langis, a senior ice forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa.
And here is the original press release
Recent cold snap helping Arctic sea ice, scientists find
And to put it completely back in context .. "The polar regions are a concern to climate specialists studying global warming, since those regions are expected to feel the impact of climate change sooner and to a greater extent than other areas."
It is a cold snap. It is not 'cool news about global warming'.
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03-06-2008, 07:28 PM
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That report is such an incorrect piece of trash completely pulled out of context. The two scientist that were quoted, said .. (and these are the correct quotes)...
"It's nice to know that the ice is recovering," Josefino Comiso, a senior research scientist with the Cryospheric Sciences Branch of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Centre in Maryland, told CBC News on Thursday.
"That means that maybe the perennial ice would not go down as low as last year."
Canadian scientists are also noticing growing ice coverage in most areas of the Arctic, including the southern Davis Strait and the Beaufort Sea.
"Clearly, we're seeing the ice coverage rebound back to more near normal coverage for this time of year," said Gilles Langis, a senior ice forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa.
And here is the original press release
Recent cold snap helping Arctic sea ice, scientists find
And to put it completely back in context .. "The polar regions are a concern to climate specialists studying global warming, since those regions are expected to feel the impact of climate change sooner and to a greater extent than other areas."
It is a cold snap. It is not 'cool news about global warming'. |
I love it.
A year-long "cold snap".
Trash Science=doesn't fit the template=heresy. The earthcentrics prolly thought Copernicus was trashy, too, not to mention that Galileo's writings were considered heresy, and he got house arrest.
Again , so much for "scientific consensus".
It gets colder, and it's because of MMGW! It gets warmer, it's because of MMGW! Ice goes away, it's because of MMGW. Ice grows back, it's because og MMGW.
I shot a 105 yesterday. Why? MMGW.
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03-06-2008, 07:47 PM
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I love it.
A year-long "cold snap".
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Where do you read that? I don't see it at all. What I see is
"Temperatures have stayed well in the -30s C and -40s C range since late January throughout the North, with the mercury dipping past -50 C in some areas." You may not get it, but he is talking about January 2008, not January 2007.
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"But he added that it's too soon to say what impact this winter will have on the Arctic summer sea ice, which reached its lowest coverage ever recorded in the summer of 2007."
The winter ice is a determinant of the summer ice. Do I need to say that? I don't think so .. Duh .. but no time to fix now!
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"Langis said the ice pack is currently located about 130 kilometres from the Mackenzie Delta, about half the distance from where it was last year."
Anyway, I have some stuff prepared to post here but I need to fix my English a little and work has kicked up a small storm.
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03-06-2008, 07:57 PM
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Where do you read that?
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Originally Posted by Chris
It is a cold snap. It is not 'cool news about global warming'.
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There^^^
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Originally Posted by Chris
Anyway, I have some stuff prepared to post here
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Cool.  I mean warm.
Anyway, so do I.
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