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Old 11-17-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default What the DR Can/Should Do Regarding Global Climate Change

The three working groups of the IPCC has given three reports on the impact of global warming and the result, climate change. Since the IPCC received the Nobel Prize a few months ago, together with Al Gore, the scientists involved seemed to have taken their gloves off. They are much less sensitive to Governmental Changes on the language in these important reports - and also much less sensitive to the sources of grants for continuing their studies. This is a good thing. After reading and studying all the reports, the language in this synthesis report really has changed. It is a wake up call for those that have not woken up yet. One of the most defocussing arguments over the past number of years, was if human activity caused global warming. The results of that debate is in and there is no doubt any longer. This report contains a section whereby they detail the effects in a scant 18 years away, 2020. Things of course will not suddenly start in 2020 but we are already in a global warming cycle.

Draft synthesis report from the bbc's website

Here are a few highlights focused on island environments for those that don't feel like taking the time to read this. I would however urge you to take the time and read, digest and understand this material.

Causes of change
Changes in atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases (GHGs) and aerosols, land-cover and solar radiation alter the energy balance of the climate system.
There is very high confidence that the net effect of human activities since 1750 has been one of warming.

Examples of some projected regional impacts

Small Islands
• Sea-level rise is expected to exacerbate inundation, storm surge, erosion and other coastal hazards, thus threatening vital
infrastructure, settlements and facilities that support the livelihood of island communities;
• Deterioration in coastal conditions, for example through erosion of beaches and coral bleaching is expected to affect local
resources;
• By mid-century, climate change is expected to reduce water resources in many small islands, e.g., in the Caribbean and Pacific, to the point where they become insufficient to meet demand during low-rainfall periods.
• With higher temperatures, increased invasion by non-native species is expected to occur, particularly on mid- and high latitude islands.

Latin America
• By mid century, increases in temperature and associated decreases in soil water are projected to lead to gradual
replacement of tropical forest by savanna in eastern Amazonia. Semi-arid vegetation will tend to be replaced by aridland
vegetation.
• There is a risk of significant biodiversity loss through species extinction in many areas of tropical Latin America;
• Productivity of some important crops is projected to decrease and livestock productivity to decline, with adverse
consequences for food security. In temperate zones soybean yields are projected to increase. Overall, the number of
people at risk of hunger is projected to increase (TS; medium confidence).
• Changes in precipitation patterns and the disappearance of glaciers are projected to significantly affect water availability
for human consumption, agriculture and energy generation.

Human influences have:
• very likely contributed to sea level rise during the latter half of the 20th century
• likely contributed to changes in wind patterns, affecting extra-tropical storm tracks and temperature patterns
• likely increased temperatures of extreme hot nights, cold nights and cold days
• more likely than not increased risk of heat waves, area affected by drought since the 1970s and frequency of
heavy precipitation events.

Projected climate change and its impacts
There is high agreement and much evidence that with current climate change mitigation policies and related sustainable development practices, global GHG emissions will continue to grow over the next few decades.

Regional-scale changes include:
• warming greatest over land and at most high northern latitudes and least over Southern Ocean and parts of
the North Atlantic Ocean, continuing recent observed trends (Figure SPM.6) in contraction of snow cover
area, increases in thaw depth over most permafrost regions, and decrease in sea ice extent; in some
projections using SRES scenarios, Arctic late-summer sea ice disappears almost entirely by the latter part of the 21st century
• very likely increase in frequency of hot extremes, heat waves, and heavy precipitation
• likely increase in tropical cyclone intensity; less confidence in global decrease of tropical cyclone numbers
• poleward shift of extra-tropical storm tracks with consequent changes in wind, precipitation, and temperature patterns
• very likely precipitation increases in high latitudes and likely decreases in most subtropical land regions, continuing observed recent trends
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:40 AM
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Let's at this stage get back to the point. This 4th IPCC report basically says that the world is warming, that it is a 'very high confidence' that mankind is responsible for a portion of the warming because of excess greenhouse gasses present as a result of what we do in our current industrialized society, and that we need to get off our duffs and do something about it in a hurry.

I would like to get closer to the DR and specifically discuss what the findings for Latin America and the Caribbean may mean for the future and what possible actions would be good to take.

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Old 11-25-2007, 11:21 AM
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OK, so in the 4th IPCC report, we have some projected regional impact examples as a result of global warming. Here they are again and I've re-organized them best I could, in terms of water availability, coastal environment, tropical environment and species and biodiversity. While you read through, think about our current way of life in the DR, and how we should adapt to mitigate against these climatic impacts. In terms of hurricanes, the feeling currently is that there will actually be fewer hurricanes, but more intense.

Water Availability for human consumption, agriculture and energy generation will become increasingly scarce. Small islands are expected to have insufficient water to meet demand during low-rainfall periods.

The Coastal Environment - as a result of sea level rise, we will have to deal with storm surge and erosion which will threaten infrastructure and settlements that support the livelihood of island communities. Beaches will erode and coral bleaching will affect local resources such as fishing. Of course, dead coral does not act as barrier reef.

The Tropical Environment
- higher temperatures will increase the chances of invasion by non-native species. It seems that tropical forest is under threat of being replaced by savanna or semi-arid-land type vegetation. Productivity of some important crops is projected to decrease and livestock productivity to decline, with adverse consequences for food security. Although in temperate zones, soybean yields are projected to increase. The number of people at risk of hunger is projected to increase.

Species and Biodiversity - There is a risk of significant biodiversity loss through species extinction in many areas of tropical Latin America

So, the question is what do you think about these climate change impacts? Are you thinking of making any changes? What could those changes be?
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Yep dig a deeper well, live away from the ocean. While it is true that we are going through a climate change, we are always going through a climate change. The conclusions that you draw from your readings have been refuted by many well known scientists and climatologists that say it just ain't so. For me, I have a little streak of Missouri mule in me. I'm not convinced that our climate changes are man-made. I agree that we pollute far too much and haven't done nearly enough about it. The health of our air and water is certainly something we should all be concerned about.

Understanding Climate Change: The Natural Resources Stewardship Project reconsiders the Kyoto Protocol (Kyoto Accord) and Canada's environmental policy.
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I agree with the site that you've posted in that individual action is required and we cannot really depend on governmental action, or governmental action needs a whole lot of oversight. I agree fully that the issues need local action, local support and local skill sets and knowledge. That is why I'm still hanging in there in this specific thread.

I would need much more time to figure out what they really mean in terms of statements such as 'An understanding that private property encourages private responsibility' and 'An understanding that more economic freedom permits more responsible individual action'. These statements touch on ideology and I'm working very hard to keep ideology out of this discussion and to get the Dominican Republic into this discussion, on a real practical level.

By definition, we will most probably differ in ideology. Just read the DR1 and you'll see many many questions where typical First World Westerners are asking questions about the Dominicans, their ways, what they believe and so on. In many areas of the world private property ownership is simply not possible, let alone the fact that some communities function better (and worse in some cases) in sensible community groups. For the area of the world where this organization wants to work, what they want to do may be valid. I have no idea. People that are active in grassroots NGO's in rural and developing worlds can certainly tell you that community groups are very effective in accomplishing the goals of a community. In fact, they will tell you that if you do not have community support for an initiative, it will fail.

Again, I want to narrow down this discussion on the Dominican Republic and the actual expected physical and geographical changes that we may encounter. We all have different ideologies.
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The Global Foundation for Democracy and Development has a bunch of links dealing with studies about how climatic changes (warming) will effect the island. The studies are written in Spanish. Recommended.

Global Foundation for Democracy and Development - GFDD
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If you guys want to engage in a rant on the UN, no prob, just take it to a new thread in another forum, not here. This thread is about the possible impact of global climate change on the DR.
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If you guys want to engage in a rant on the UN, no prob, just take it to a new thread in another forum, not here. This thread is about the possible impact of global climate change on the DR.
OK.

The possible impact of implementing the suggested Kyoto protocols on the Dominican Republic may be economic disaster, as the #1 generator of currency, tourism, could be negatively impacted by the economic fallout in Canada, the U.S., and Europe. Bad economies there = less travel to the DR; less travel to the DR = extreme economic hardship in the DR.

And all that for what? Negligible impact on supposede climate change?

Cost/benefit makes no sense at all.
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Thanks for your input. This thread should stay on the message(s), not the messengers, although you have made it abundantly clear that you have equal contempt for both messages and messengers when it comes to this issue.

So you would argue on focusing on adaptation rather than mitigation?

Kyoto is flawed, no doubt, but it is due to expire in 5 years anyway. It does have some flexibility in how its commitments can be met, however, so I don't buy the apocalyptic vision you offer of its implementation.
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Kyoto is flawed, no doubt, but it is due to expire in 5 years anyway. It does have some flexibility in how its commitments can be met, however, so I don't buy the apocalyptic vision you offer of its implementation.
Folks with a good understanding of macro economic systems have serious disagreement with Kyoto. It is well beyond flawed. It starts with badly flawed and faulty science. One would assume that before the world is thrown into ~potential~ economic chaos, it would be based on clear, solid science.

And one would hope that the folks promoting such a flawed plan, with the incredibly high cost/benefit that could result in significant negative planetary economic consequences, would be ethically purer than Caesars' wife.

But, alas, none of it is to be. Corrupt officials offering badly flawed science that could result in an ugly world economic climate, especially within the developed nations. I'm not the only one who understands the possibilities to think it's really bad mojo...
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