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05-16-2009, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
According to MY sources, this is a corporation owned by Felix Garcia (Productos Linda, Envases Antillanos, El Caribe, La Fabril, Troqueldom, etc etc etc), Manuel Estrella (El Caribe, Aceros Estrella, Cemento Dominicano) and Huascar Rodriguez Jr (Cementos Cibao) in an attempt to get closer to the major comsumer markets of the East and Santo Domingo...
I do not think it can be stopped.
HB
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I would never doubt your sources HB. Maybe you could write to these Dominican youngsters and explain? It will be worse for them if they continue to put effort into a campaign which doesn't even have a 1% chance of succeeding.
I always thought the Minister of the Environment, Jaime Mirabal, was one of the (few) good guys with a real interest in the environment? Looks like they went to town last year evicting squatters & crop growers NOT to return Los Haitises as a national ecological treasure (as said at the time) but to make it easier for ownership to be given to a cement factory (& rumoured mining concern, but I don't know how much weight that has). The pollution and contamination fallout have got to be worse from a cement factory than crop growing, surely? And Jaime Mirabal knows about that, that's why he firmly came out against the cement factory at Luperon:
sacandomelao: Jaime David vuelve y repite: LA CEMENTERA NO VÁ
So........when they were evicting the squatters from Los Haitises last year, did they know all along that it was going to a cement company?
Anyway, the youngsters have organised a sit-in/camp-in this weekend, lasting a week
Vigilante Informativo: CAMPENTO CONTRA CEMENTERA EN LOS HAITISES
Grupos no se rinden en lucha contra instalación cementera - Hoy Digital
and are thinking about litigating against him
Dominicanos HOY: Someterán Jaime David por autorizar cementera
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05-16-2009, 07:13 PM
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I wish I had the answers. The group (again, as I heard it from pretty reliable sources) is more powerful than Jaime David...tighter with the Pres and so on...
This is big league money...and egos...at play.
HB
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05-16-2009, 07:18 PM
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Jaime Mirabal has said there is no problem environmentally.....
......with that cement project.
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05-16-2009, 07:34 PM
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Money Eaters
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
This is big league money...
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05-16-2009, 09:56 PM
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so true DonP,
that's why the persons in charge will go on to fill their pockets with money just thinking:
Hey,
if i am hungry i send the wife with her credit card to the store to get something.
Jaime Mirabal seems to have changed his 'route/mind/bank account'.
i would love to see that stopped, but doubt a lot.
it's very big money talking.
Ginnie,
So........when they were evicting the squatters from Los Haitises last year, did they know all along that it was going to a cement company?
betya
Mike
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05-17-2009, 02:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeFisher
Ginnie,
So........when they were evicting the squatters from Los Haitises last year, did they know all along that it was going to a cement company?
betya Mike
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If so, Mike, then Jaime David is in no better a position than Frank Moya Pons was under Hipolito. Sad.
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05-17-2009, 09:39 AM
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the big projects/moves of those big companies are usual something planned with a long advantage, such decisions are not made from one moment to an other, to request a permit from several secretaries of state is a long lasting process.
that's why i say they knew it,
it was planned the way they start it now.
and yes,
it is very sad
Mike
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05-19-2009, 12:38 AM
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More news from the camp-in/sit-in: suggested here that if project goes ahead, Taino cave etchings will be lost, as well as the other issues raised above.
Eco Lucha RD: Boletín No. 2 - Domingo 17 de mayo |
05-23-2009, 01:38 PM
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The sit-in/camp-in at Los Haitises continues. It was due to finish this weekend but in the light of developments they are keeping it going.
On Wednesday the environmental commission of the Chamber of Deputies called a meeting for Jaime David to explain why the permission was given for the cement factory. He didn't show up but sent a team of delegates. Environmental Commission wasn't convinced by their arguments and decided to seek the annulment of the permission granted.
The camp-in therefore continues! Activists need food so anyone going there or nearby, please take them some. The battle is by no means won but this would appear to be a ray of hope and certainly attests to the power of peaceful protest.
Eco Lucha RD: SEMARENA y Jaime David no acuden ante los diputados para explicar el permiso otorgado a la Cementera en Los Haitises
Video here:
Eco Lucha RD: Video protesta miércoles, con obstrucción camiones |
05-23-2009, 07:18 PM
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Sacred ground
But nothing is sacred in the Dominican Republic. I have seen the etchings and explored the area. Perhaps someone should contact the United Nations about this heritage site.
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