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12-04-2002, 03:36 PM
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This is really going to hurt...
...but while "Osesión" is a very nice tune, a true bachatú will not consider it a classic. Aventura is to bachata what Jerry Rivera is to salsa: bubblegum. Aventura is ying to Luis Varga's yang. A real bachatú knows that Luis Vargas is the undisputed bachata god, and Antony Santos is one of the angels.
Clue for the non-Dominicans: real bachateros have a rough edge, not very good-looking, but can really write some tear-jerkers.
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12-04-2002, 04:53 PM
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Classic Bachata
Available as cassettes, covered in dust, at your favorite paradas:
Barahona's own Juan Batista.
Mao's own Eladio Romero Santos.
Check 'em out.
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12-04-2002, 06:46 PM
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I have a CD with Milly singing all bachata! I'm not dreaming...at least I don't think.
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12-05-2002, 06:08 PM
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Joseito: I couldn't have said it better. I downloaded this obsesion tune the other day to hear what all the fuss was about, and I did not care for it at all. Granted that normally you have to listen to a song many times before you start really liking it, but still it is not my type. I'm more old school when it comes to Bachata (Luis Segura, Rafael Encarnacion, Marino Perez, etc.) Those guys really know how to sing songs you can get really drunk to, while reminiscing abou lost loves, etc... That's why the genre was called 'Amargue". I think some of the newer guys (Elvis Martinez, Yoskar, Zacarias) are awsome. My grandma used to be a huge fan of Eladio Romero Santos.
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12-06-2002, 10:32 AM
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Suarezn,
Rafael Encarnacióm, Luis Segura, Leonardo Paniagua, L. Vargas, A. Santos and a few others really belong in the Bachata Hall of Fame. They are the true gods of bachatadom.
Aventura gets a lot of airplay due to the "payola". The same could be said for Elvis Crespo and his brand of merengue. Sony Disco gets Crespo to appear on Letterman's, but is he really a good merenguero? Not here, not ever. Man, Antony Santos could rock the Ed Sullivan theater if invited!
Aventura appeals to young teenage girls--and to Golo--and that's it; they are to bachata what the Dixie Chicks are to real Country & Western: bubblegum.
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12-08-2002, 09:54 PM
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Am watching Aventura on TV right now. They look more like home boys from NY than Dominicans! Very disapointed. Theyer music is good but I just hate that Ny homie hand movement. And the "mack" that followes. Can't they sing without the NY nigga look?
No prejudice intended but never liked the homie kinda thang!
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12-11-2002, 11:37 AM
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Jan
That N.Y. look is the thing that island bachata bands will have to follow to compete in the new order of music. Watch for instance a new program on Telemundo every night at 8p.m. called "The Roof" and you will see that Aventura's obsession is the #1 Video in the R&B, Hip-Hop,Latin chart at this TV station. This station is seen all over the major cities in the U.S. and is killing everybody in DR. Their ratings are way over Dominican TV stations.
Now if you compare, you take some of the hottest DR bachatuses and they have the same modern look. Frank Reyes is one sharp dude who looks more like a LLCoolJ than a bachata singer. El Gringo de La Bachata is pretty N.Y. himself. So all the new upcoming guys are not going to look like El Cieguito de Nagua. I guarantee you that. That old looks doesn't sell anymore.
Even Merengue singers are getting weirder. The most popular and best selling guys, like Toño, Tulile, Malafe, and De La Olla are our "Kiss" look alikes. How weird can you get?
TW
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12-12-2002, 04:14 PM
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Vettehead from Buckhead
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I was suprised that Golo had agreed that Aventura didn't fit the chopo category in a previous post. Have you heard them sing that NSYNC wanna be song "Gone"? If you look on their latest CD the lyrics are said to be written by "Justin Timberlave" they even spelled his name wrong. The Spanglish songs they do don't impress me at all. Especially Cuando Volveras. "when ya gonna come back, boo" 
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12-12-2002, 05:24 PM
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There's nothing funnier as when Aventura does an English version of "Obsesión". Their CD cover is as ridiculous as Grupo Mania's and E. Iglesias's CD covers. Jesus, who's photographing them?
Their attempt at Spanglishizing bachata results in a new genre called "batrasha". They are the patron saint of Gololand.
Joseíto
The Duke of Earl
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12-29-2002, 05:38 PM
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An afterthought: Siento Que Te Quiero - Zacarias Ferreira
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