Negrophobia in the D.R.
 

Until Black people take ownership of their problems they will never be FREE!
 

She blames the Spanish Governors from 100s of years ago for the problems of today!Where are her plans to make things better? Cris Colon :tired:

The basic premise is correct, but the 'facts' used to back it up do nothing for the cause. There were no Africans here in 1503. Trujillo was racist, but did not 'impose white supremacy'. etc etc. If these arguments are going to be made, do us the favour of presenting them with informed facts.

Chiri

After soing a "search" of Vanqueer-Blacks"11 posts,one thing is clear!
 

States never having been to the DR,"Nuf Said"?
There is a "Black" "Woe Is Me" agenda at work!
Wants all people who have "Black" blood to identify themselves as "Black African" decendents,and live the "Black" lifestyle! Do the "search" see what I mean! Robert has closed most of her threads! cris colon

Most of HER posts? LOL. Who cares who about who sees themself as black or white? My beef is switching sides. A lot of Dominicans try to identify with us after the fact. People as dark as Sammy Sosa and darker think they're white. Inferiority complexes I guess.

"Denial is the most predictable of all human responses"-Matrix Reloaded

Ahh, va te faire foutre LOL. Fous le camp salope!

And the lady is all black
 

So, the question really is at what percentage of black/white blood do you change races. I would argue that CC with his mixed race children would even have a hard time with this. Do you decide by colour, percentage, or does the person in question decide. Looking at the young lady who did the lecture you could make a case for her to celibrate her white blood;after all why should you decide one culture over another, which seems to be your main beef in life.
If a Dominicana/o (mullato) perfers to identify themselves with one of their races that's their business. Perhaps if we all could look past the colour of skin(which most of can) there wouldn't be a need for these type of conversation. It seems that you as a black Haitian have a large chip on your shoulder.

This is getting deep
 

Next we'll be dealing with Dominican penis envy ;-)

Criss, Why are you always the first one to respond on black race issues? Why are you so concerned with blacks in the world and their plight? Are you really black and just passing for white or something and angry that one of your white pappies raped your great-great grandmother and adulterated you with black blood? What's with you and all your anger towards the black race?

Shouldn't have to Choose
 

I have completed a lot of research on racial and ethnic issues in the Dominican Republic as well as visiting numerous times with my Dominican friends. For people of mixed races, they shouldn't have to choose only one; that's an American mentality that needs to go away. I completely agree with what the previous writer said about mixed race children and "at what percentage are they in what race".

If someone identifies more with "Black" or African culture, fine, let them be proud of that part of their heritage, but if a mulatto feels more comfortable and identifies more with the white part of his heritage, that should be acceptable too. Most of my Dominican friends admit that they have Spanish, Arabic, French and African ancestry, but they do not consider themselves "Black" by American definitions because they do not limit their identity to only one part of their background. Their skin color, features, hair, etc. would not categorize them as phenotypically "Black" either.

My boyfriend is Dominican, and while he does not appear "Black", yes, he does have African heritage (which is more apparent on his mother's side) he is a mixture of so many things that I would not just tell someone "I'm marrying a black man"...I would say "I'm marrying a Dominican". Whites are allowed to claim their distinct backgrounds, such as saying "I'm German-American" or that they are part French, German, and Irish. Those of mixed race should have just as much ability to claim all parts of their background and not just be lumped into one category unless that is what they choose for themselves.

The whole "Indio" categorization does show some bias against their African ancestry in claiming that their color and features come from the Taino indians. However, this exists as a cultural myth, and while the Tainos may have been essentially wiped out in the early years of the conquests, Dominicans have a right to be proud of the Taino contribution to their history. The good thing about Dominican racial categorization is that it takes into account many factors, not just the "One drop" American rule.