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12-20-2005, 12:23 PM
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He was Puertorican Afterall!!!!
A few months ago, I pointed towards the story of the American citizen who was being denied his citizenship by the US embassy here, because he "look Dominican, thus could not be an American citizen".
Well, it turns out that all he had to do was wait 11 years in order to be recognized as a real American Citizen.
What a story!
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=8462
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12-20-2005, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
A few months ago, I pointed towards the story of the American citizen who was being denied his citizenship by the US embassy here, because he "look Dominican, thus could not be an American citizen".
Well, it turns out that all he had to do was wait 11 years in order to be recognized as a real American Citizen.
What a story!
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=8462 |
I pretty sure his kids "se estan riendo con la ultima muela" as they don't have to contemplate travelling on Yolanda de aviacion and AA (Agua alante y Agua atras) to Puerto Rico anymore. I am glad it worked out for him. Is he suing?
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12-20-2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
A few months ago, I pointed towards the story of the American citizen who was being denied his citizenship by the US embassy here, because he "look Dominican, thus could not be an American citizen".
Well, it turns out that all he had to do was wait 11 years in order to be recognized as a real American Citizen.
What a story!
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=8462 |
The whole "looked Dominican" thing is his story...as stated clearly in the link you provided. I don't think any intelligent person believes that is the whole story. There are just too many things that he could do about it. And any US official who would be stupid enough to deny a citizen their passport for such a ridiculous reason would be taken care of pretty quickly.
I have a theory...he is an idiot. And the papers love a good story like this. There is no comment from the Embassy because it is against policy to publicly discuss another person's situation. Thus, they print one side of the story.
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12-20-2005, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Stodgord
I pretty sure his kids "se estan riendo con la ultima muela" as they don't have to contemplate travelling on Yolanda de aviacion and AA (Agua alante y Agua atras) to Puerto Rico anymore. I am glad it worked out for him. Is he suing?
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He has been living here for the past 11 years!
Suing is probably not in his mind, for the moment.
Let's see what would happen when he reaches PR and is reminded of this action he can take.
-NAL
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12-20-2005, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Scandall
The whole "looked Dominican" thing is his story...as stated clearly in the link you provided. I don't think any intelligent person believes that is the whole story. There are just too many things that he could do about it. And any US official who would be stupid enough to deny a citizen their passport for such a ridiculous reason would be taken care of pretty quickly.
I have a theory...he is an idiot. And the papers love a good story like this. There is no comment from the Embassy because it is against policy to publicly discuss another person's situation. Thus, they print one side of the story.
Scandall
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Of course, it is his story, but there really is no excuse why the Americans waited 11 years to verify if the guy was American or not!
The guy even served in the US military... 11 years simply is not fitting for any country, let alone the world's superpower.
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12-20-2005, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
is reminded of this action he can take.
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Action he can take?...aren't we assuming a bit here?
...and look at this realistically...11 years? he must not have been trying very hard...
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12-20-2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nal0whs
Of course, it is his story, but there really is no excuse why the Americans waited 11 years to verify if the guy was American or not!
The guy even served in the US military... 11 years simply is not fitting for any country, let alone the world's superpower.
-NAL
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Again...you are assumning they took 11 years...I doubt his story almost entirely...I can think of a dozen different things a citizen could do...
Remember what happens when you "assume"...
This guy is not telling the whole story.
Scandall
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12-20-2005, 01:07 PM
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I place the burden of proof on him and not the government
I think it was his responsibility to prove to the government who he was and not for the government to prove. If it took 11 years is because he allowed it to be somehow. In the US, if the computer says I am dead I must prove the government that I am alive by providing substantiated proof. Me moving around and looking alive is not a valid proof. Samething in the DR, you must pay and provide substantiated proof of who you are before you get any type of offical document.
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12-20-2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Stodgord
I think it was his responsibility to prove to the government who he was and not for the government to prove. If it took 11 years is because he allowed it to be somehow. In the US, if the computer says I am dead I must prove the government that I am alive by providing substantiated proof. Me moving around and looking alive is not a valid proof. Samething in the DR, you must pay and provide substantiated proof of who you are before you get any type of offical document.
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Ahh...a voice of reason. Thank God.
Proving your citizenship is easy. A few calls to you Congressman, Senator or even local official would get the ball rolling. 11 years? I imagine that this guy went to the embassy and was told that he needed more documentation or something that he did not have. Instead of doing some legwork and solving the problem he decided to spend 11 years doing whatever it was that he was doing and blaming them.
NEWSFLASH...being in the National Guard does not make you a "veteran"...and being in the U.S. military does not mean you are a citizen...you only need residency to join. Which is why there was a resolution on the floor of the House of Representatives that passed and went to the Senate to fast track citizenship for soldiers serving in Iraq. I am not sure of the outcome.
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12-20-2005, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Scandall
Ahh...a voice of reason. Thank God.
Proving your citizenship is easy. A few calls to you Congressman, Senator or even local official would get the ball rolling. 11 years? I imagine that this guy went to the embassy and was told that he needed more documentation or something that he did not have. Instead of doing some legwork and solving the problem he decided to spend 11 years doing whatever it was that he was doing and blaming them.
NEWSFLASH...being in the National Guard does not make you a "veteran"...and being in the U.S. military does not mean you are a citizen...you only need residency to join. Which is why there was a resolution on the floor of the House of Representatives that passed and went to the Senate to fast track citizenship for soldiers serving in Iraq. I am not sure of the outcome.
Scandall
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But Scandall,
Is this an assumption or fact? 
-NAL
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