Merengue de Calle (Mambo)

[El_Uruguayo]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to get someone to write a politcal jingle or two, mambo style. Funniest thing I saw last year was a truck full of young pretty girls in purple shiny pants dancing a reagetton about Danilo, bums shakin galore! It was basically "los benjamins" with altered lyrics. Never would see something like that in Canada or the states. There is a totally different take on politics in the DR, do these stunts make people vote? I dunno, but perhaps subconciously it works.

[montreal]

Originally Posted by El_Uruguayo

I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to get someone to write a politcal jingle or two, mambo style.

They do it with merengues (calle-style) already and then blast them out of speakers piled 3 stories high. There's nothing they wouldn't try to attract the young people. Including the go-go dancers you saw

Margaret, to answer your question about the fundraisers. They do telethon style fundraisers. There was a big one for Noel. Lots of famous Dominicans including JL Guerra.

[mademoizaile]

Originally Posted by El sabelotó

A person would have to be dead to dislike this tune by Omega y su Mambo Violento:

Omega Y Su Mambo Violento En Vivo-De Que No Hay Manera audio in tomassoto's public channel on Twango

Agreed!!!!

[lagrupera]

I know I'm very late, but if anyone is still interested, I am!!!

Here is the Omega show at Leonel's "promoción".
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QDi9tzIOGz8

I find it super interesting that Leonel has used Mambo for popularity while Acroarte (the casandra) have yet to legitimize the genre.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sUX4UUHReV0&feature=related

I would have never thought that the two would be at discord.

Looking at DR history of politicians using popular music, Trujillo used merengue from el Cibao that was considered to be de los campesinos or of the peasant class, to promote himself as leader. When he became very wealthy he still prefered this genre, so he appropriated it to the upper class, modifying its style.
Leonel now uses music from the disenfranchized aswell. I wonder what the effects might be?
Will Leonel's use of mambo in his campaign be taken into account by Acroarte?

Also, are there some TV channels that do not broadcast Mambo (and do other genres)?

[Mr. Lu]

Originally Posted by lagrupera

I know I'm very late, but if anyone is still interested, I am!!!

Here is the Omega show at Leonel's "promoción".
YouTube - OMEGA EN LA PROCLAMACIÓN DE LEONEL FERN�NDEZ PLD HIT

I find it super interesting that Leonel has used Mambo for popularity while Acroarte (the casandra) have yet to legitimize the genre.
YouTube - Sergio Vargas Le Manda Fuego Acroarte que lean el !Salmo 37!

I would have never thought that the two would be at discord.

Looking at DR history of politicians using popular music, Trujillo used merengue from el Cibao that was considered to be de los campesinos or of the peasant class, to promote himself as leader. When he became very wealthy he still prefered this genre, so he appropriated it to the upper class, modifying its style.
Leonel now uses music from the disenfranchized aswell. I wonder what the effects might be?
Will Leonel's use of mambo in his campaign be taken into account by Acroarte?

Also, are there some TV channels that do not broadcast Mambo (and do other genres)?

Its political chess play. He is just using the genre to appeal to a large mass of the population that enjoys this music. He is appealing to youths, poor, etc. It's just a way to make a connection. No way will Acroarte legitimize the art form and from what I understand, they don't want to be recognized by Acroarte. Omega and the Mamberos are too popular in their own right and are making too much money as is...


Mr. Lu

[lagrupera]

Thanks for your response Mr. Lu!

I lived in San Cristóbal about 5 years ago and do not remember Mambo being a big deal, when I was there it was more Merengue tipico that was very popular among those who weren't snobs (although some snobs did like it).. . Merengue tipico was sometimes played in snobby bars, but it was more Merengue normal/romantico that was accepted... while bachata was prohibited. Merengue tipico artists like Toño Rosario or maybe more Amarfis (If I'm not mistaken) would say "dale mambo" in their songs, but their music was considered to be merengue tipico or "normal"/ romantico... (?) I guess they were just saying "dale mambo" as to say "dale swing" or whatever...mambo was not to my understanding a genre in its own right... or maybe it was and I wasn't aware of it? Oro Duro did exist... but I don't know what genre they were officially considered! ?
What I was aware of were the popular american hip-hop songs that were interposed onto a Merengue (tipico?) beat. One that was really popular was 50 Cent's "in da club".
>>> Would it be false to conclude that these hip-hop/merengue tipico "remixes" were that which influenced the making of "mambo"... It became officially Mambo when Dominicans started to entirely create the songs, produce them.... similar lyrics and fashion, but now Dominican artists instead of American. >>>? or maybe not...
I know that this merengue/hip hop remixing still continues (at least online), but is it popular in DR or has Mambo completely taken over?

:-)

[lagrupera]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV8MfSsKJls


did this many musical artists (/merengueros) promote the PRD election??

Sergio Vargas hits me as having a lot of integrity -- he slams down the elite acroarte, defending el mambo. I guess if he is playing at this Leonel reelection party, he must sincerely want him reelected. What do you think?
or do you think that this is another case of "political chess play"?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKE5RDDzirk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRRAm...eature=related

Is the Banda Gorda considered "mambo" ...? and if so, has it always been considered so?

thanks

[jalencastro]

hey lagrupera, where in san cristobal did you live? my wife is from the campos of najayo/yaguate and i am there every year. just curious.
i too wondered when this started being called 'mambo'
interesting too on your youtube posts on Leonel, how many artists he had that night performing for him. if i remember correctly i also saw asides from Omega, Fefita la Grande and Frank Reyes....interesting how to appeal to the masses eh?

[lagrupera]

(I lived in el centro, off of constitución..right next to the Hospital Juan Pablo Pina..and after that, in madre vieja).

Yeah, I think it's really interesting how Leonel uses all of these "popular" music artists to appeal to the population. Do you remember if Hipolito used so many artists for his presidential campaign?

[Mr. Lu]

Originally Posted by lagrupera

YouTube - LEONEL FERNANDEZ CANTANDO Y BAILANDO


did this many musical artists (/merengueros) promote the PRD election??

Sergio Vargas hits me as having a lot of integrity -- he slams down the elite acroarte, defending el mambo. I guess if he is playing at this Leonel reelection party, he must sincerely want him reelected. What do you think?
or do you think that this is another case of "political chess play"?
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YouTube - Leonel Fernandez - Subido en el Palo( www.facilventa.com )

YouTube - PEÑA SUAZO "DÉJALO AH�" LEONEL FERN�NDEZ RECORRIDOS PLD 2008

Is the Banda Gorda considered "mambo" ...? and if so, has it always been considered so?

thanks

I don't recall the use of musicians during the PRD administration, but mind you that Johnny Ventura, a PRD faithful has joining the ranks of the PLD re-election campaign. Mind you that music has always been used a tool to appeal to the masses. Especially in a country like the DR, where music is such a big part of life, it makes sense to use music to get a message across or make you more appealing. But it happens all over the world as well. What's interesting is the use of "popular" musics that appeal especially to the masses, but if you notice a guy like Omega doesn't appeal to the PLD elite. So it's a clash of common ideals within the party.

As for Vargas, he is a PLD sindico in Villa Altagracia. So his support for Fernandez and the PLD is just a continuation of his personal views. He's been a PLD guy, so as for Vargas its not really a chess play.

More stuff coming later...



Mr. Lu