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Old 02-22-2006, 04:43 PM
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Do I understand this correctly. They have started the process of digging out the metro and have discovered lots of water which would prevent the metro from going forward? What is the rest of the story?
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Old 02-22-2006, 05:24 PM
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The water affects the foundation of the columns being built for the elevated train over Villa Mella, not the underground.
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Old 02-22-2006, 05:48 PM
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It just shows how precipitated the beginning of construction was. This huge rip=off just had to be gotten underway.

According to "vox populí" the gov't payroll could not be paid last month (on time) because the money was being funneled to the Metro, and they (the gov't) 'thought' that the new budget would be approved....

"Cosas veredes, Sancho" (Cervantes)

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Old 02-22-2006, 07:11 PM
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That said, I'll add that in their haste to get the "Metro" underway,"undercover", the powers that be neglected to drill the "test holes' common in a project of this type. Reliable companies do that to make some sort of determination as to the type and viscocity of the soil they will be working in. Not so here!!! The fools should have known that Santo Domingo sits atop alluvial deposition from the rivers surrounding it. They just (as usual) didn't use good judgement in planning(?) the project. That scenario is common here. "Full Speed Ahead and Damn the Torpedos"!!!!
We KNOW there will be massive cost-overruns in this project and the poor, dub Dominicans who planned it will surely find SOME WAY to pass the buck in another direction. They'repast masters at rationalizing their way out of sticky situations.

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Old 03-02-2006, 09:59 PM
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This so-called "Metro" will without a doubt be one of the most ridiculous and corruption infested projects ever to be initiated. I believe in America they call them "Pork Barrels."

Just wait and watch how many more BMW's, Benz's, Jeepetas, will be patrolling up and down the Malecon in the next few months to come. It'll surely help keep Santo Domingo as the top demographic in Latin America with the most Mercedes per capita.....oh well.
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:05 PM
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As some of you know, my fiancé lives in Villa Mella...believe me, I would not ride on that metro if they PAID me to...

The construction is so shoddy, it's unbelievable...I've asked Tony if they did any kind of 'pre-construction' assesments, or findings of any kind to see if it was okay to start the project, and he says: "Of course, the engineers gathered 'round and said...Yeah, it's ok...let's start...and that was that!"

There is one column that is right on the corner of Ave. Penetración and Maximo Gómez, right where we turn to go to Tony's house, that is the center of one of the first problems to arise...the water they didn't count on...the column can't be erected because of the mud that doesn't let the steel beams set on the concrete...(or something like that)

I don't even want to know how the project is going UNDERGROUND...did anybody ever even think what this whole thing is supposed to do? Carry tens of thousands of people everyday back and forth? What about the crime underground? If there is rampant crime on the streets at all hours of the day, can you imagine what it could be like on the subway???

It pains me to even think about those things...because I would love to see Santo Domingo prosper...but the people in charge have absolutely no sense of discipline to undertake a project of these dimensions...

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Old 03-03-2006, 12:44 PM
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As some of you know, my fiancé lives in Villa Mella...believe me, I would not ride on that metro if they PAID me to...

The construction is so shoddy, it's unbelievable...I've asked Tony if they did any kind of 'pre-construction' assesments, or findings of any kind to see if it was okay to start the project, and he says: "Of course, the engineers gathered 'round and said...Yeah, it's ok...let's start...and that was that!"

There is one column that is right on the corner of Ave. Penetración and Maximo Gómez, right where we turn to go to Tony's house, that is the center of one of the first problems to arise...the water they didn't count on...the column can't be erected because of the mud that doesn't let the steel beams set on the concrete...(or something like that)

I don't even want to know how the project is going UNDERGROUND...did anybody ever even think what this whole thing is supposed to do? Carry tens of thousands of people everyday back and forth? What about the crime underground? If there is rampant crime on the streets at all hours of the day, can you imagine what it could be like on the subway???

It pains me to even think about those things...because I would love to see Santo Domingo prosper...but the people in charge have absolutely no sense of discipline to undertake a project of these dimensions...

MQ
Just curious...

Is your boyfriend an engineer or architect?

If you want, PM the answer.

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Old 03-03-2006, 12:53 PM
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"If you want, PM the answer"

What a wag!!!!!
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Old 03-03-2006, 01:14 PM
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Nals---AGAIN, you beg the issue...
When will you admit the fact that THIS project is "off the cuff" insofar as any reasonable planning, environmental study, OR WHATEVER is concerned.
leonel's cronies were so anxious to get the thing underway that they forgot to do any planning at all.
Santo Domingo sits on the alluial deposition of THOUSANDS OF YEARS and it will be virtually impossible to construct any underground facility without building MILES & MILES of coffer dams to prevent the incursion of underground water into the construction site. One doesn't need to be an engineer to see that. The problem lies with the people who want to have a modern transportation AT ANY PRICE! And i'm convinced that price will be in the BILLIONS of US$s.
What do you REALLY THINK. And don't give me any of your SPIN DOCTOR rhetoric?

Texas Bill
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Old 03-03-2006, 01:23 PM
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Hope they thought of Hurricane season--God forbid the Santo Domingo subway(STDs) becomes an effluent underground river, filled with effluent..jaja.

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