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06-20-2006, 12:45 PM
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Labelling people as communist without foundation constitute defamation of character
Having respect to the individual's personal integrity without passing judgement shall be a very logical, rational human decision:
The fact of the matter is that in a democratic's political arena, there is always room for improvement for those running the goverment. The fact that an organization or individual expresseses a different point of direction does not constitute that organization or individual is trying to change the system, to the contrary thats what makes a government by the people and for the people (democracy) an attractive political system.
Ricardo Tejeda is not a communist, yes Ricardo Tejeda is a democrat-Dominican-nationalist who feels very strongly that the country is not heading in the right direction.
As an organizer of the "PARTIDO DE LA ESPERANZA DOMINICANA" I need to convey, by whatever means necessary, the real issues affecting our nation, in the short and long term: think for a moment about the impact that "Las Deudas Externa" can have to the future generations, the sons and daughters of the Dominican families.
Santo Domingo is one of the oldest city in the new world, and what do we have to show for it, politically?
Civilization and democracy are for the educated. Calling a true nationalist- democrat a communist, without foundation is not only old school is an oxymoran.
"Communist" was a label that was used, during the most oppressive time in Latin America history, to maintain undemocratic dictatorship regimes in power,Trujillo and Balaguer killed many people because they were politically labelled as communist. Mr. Nals, those day are over, "stop the madness".
Now! If you analyse the facts, like labelling a new potential leader as communist, without evidence or foundation, is not only a disservice to the country, its ludicrous, oxymoran, irresponsible and plaintly put, stupid.
Mr. Nals are you aware that Juan (Emilio) Bosch founded the PLD in communist Cuba, in 1973? And that Juan Bosch was the first elected president, after the end of the Trujillo's dictatorship and six months later was coup de tat labelled as a communist, simply for being to vigorous agaisn't corruption?
Are you aware that the PLD is no longer the political party that Prof. Bosch created? Are you aware that the PLD deleted its original membership recruitment process? Are you aware that the PLD removed its political position from their website?
The point is the PLD is not the same political party, as it was structured by its founder father Juan Bosch.
Mr. Nals are you aware that Trujillo's right hand man, Balaguer, betrayed his Vice-President, Jancito Peynado, to support the oppostion headed by Leonel Fernandez Reyna? Mister, Nals are you aware that Leonel Fernandez first administration invited Fidel Castro and sat Balaguer next to him? Mr. Nals do you think Leonel Fernandez is a Communist? I don't think so!
How do you contribute to changes toward the right direction without new leaders and ideas being put before the electorate in a democratic voting process? Tell me?
Mister, Nals labelling Lic. Ricardo Tejeda as a communist is wrong and constitute defamation of character. Mr. Nals calling Lic. Ricardo Tejeda an idiot also constitute a potential defamation of character, just for information sake. Be careful, please.
Just to set the record straight: The "PED" is a progressive cooperative political movement that is not agaisnt the metro, however we have to set the country's priority straight. There are too many issues that are more in tone with the liberation of the Dominican Republic's illnesses and building a metro at a cost of more that a $$billion dollars$$ would have not be a top priority under a government by the "P.E.D".
There are so many others issues and priorities affecting the Dominican Republic, that is not funny, allow me to mention just a few:
#1 the lack of electric energy, #2 phisycal and mental health issues, #3 employment, #4 education, #5 gun control. Last but not least important # 6 the pacific invation of illegal immigration from Haiti into Dominican Republic's severeign territory, which is the most detriment negligence of the PLD's current government.
What is the PLD doing about crime or about any of the issues mentioned above? Tell me, I would like to hear. Privitising the toll boths is not a positive step toward liberation of bad roads in the country.
Dominicano este es tu pais no te dejes enganar por tu, supuestos, representates: Unete al "PARTIDO DE LA ESPERAZA DOMINICANA"
DIOS PATRIA Y LIBERTAD ES NUESTRA FILOSOFIA. AMEN
PS. Mr. Nals yo soy Dominicano de pura cepa y voy a mi pais muy frequentemente. Por favor nunca ponga mi dominicanida en duda, gracias.
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06-20-2006, 01:03 PM
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[QUOTE=rtejeda]....
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Congratulation!!! Ramón, that was a great post! By the way, don't call NALs Mr. Nals. NALs is a nickname, and he used to be called Nawls, which is the black gangsta hoodlum slum way of expressing "No". Haven't you noticed how negative NALs is?
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06-20-2006, 01:09 PM
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WOW! What a diatribe....
This is the internet. People say a lot of things....Libel is often seen.
The PLD failed at the beginning because it was modeled on Lenin's methodology of selection of members. It was never intended to be a party of mass membership, but rather an "educated" (indoctrinated would be a better way to put it) group of elitist politicians who would follow the leader--Bosch. It was not until a lot of new blood entered the party without having to sit around in reading circles or sell newspapers or write tripe articles for the newspaper that membership grew and the demographic base increased.
Wish these people didn't have such selective memories....
HB :  
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06-20-2006, 01:32 PM
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My name is "Lic. Ricardo Tejeda", I am not Ramon, and R. tejeda is the way it shows on this Thread. To Nals or whatever his name is"Stop the Madness and negativism".
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06-20-2006, 01:38 PM
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Notice: For those who may want to join the"PARTIDO DE LA ESPERANZA DOMINICANA" YOU MY E-MAIL LIC. RICARDO TEJEDA AT rtejedasantana06@yahoo.com.
DIOS PATRIA Y LIBERTAD ES NUESTRA FILOSOFIA, AMEN.
DOMINICANO, ESTE ES TU PAIS, NO TE DEJES ENGANAR POR TU (SUPUESTIOS) REPRESENTANTES EN EL GOVIERNO.
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06-20-2006, 01:54 PM
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Honorificabilitudinitatibus
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Originally Posted by rtejeda
Labelling people as communist without foundation constitute defamation of character
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Only if being communist is construed to be an insult. Would it be defamation to call Castro a communist?
If someone perceives your political views as communist, how could that be defamatory?
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06-20-2006, 02:01 PM
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Yes, how quickly or conveniently they forget.
I consider the post to be a rant repeating of that which is discussed on this board day after day. To offer us a history class to the cognizant members of this board is fruitless. If you wish to ameliorate the situation here in the DR then the direction of your nugatory post must be directed toward the board and not to a fellow Dominican that too lives in the USA as yourself.
Your sui generic version of the PED is preposterous to the political arena here without a history to facilitate your claims. I asked you previously to name the leaders of this organization and you have failed to do so. It was I who asked a number of question of you and you answer Nal's in Spanish.
I will repeat to you one last time that if you wish to communicate with this board with the intension to proselytize anyone then you must address your posts to the board or those that ask specific question.
Rick
Edited to add;
Your arduous attempt to paint the PLD in an unfavorable light with the 6 statements made in post #1 follows the old adage "That dog won't hunt". I say this because looking at the history commensurate with this republic the best times have been under PLD controlled government.
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06-20-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocky
Only if being communist is construed to be an insult. Would it be defamation to call Castro a communist?
If someone perceives your political views as communist, how could that be defamatory?
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CALLING THE "INDIVIDUAL", NOT THE IDEOLOGY, "A COMMUNIST" IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT MAY PERCEIVE COMMUNISM AS NEGATIVE AND IT MAY POTENTIALLY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT INTO THAT INDIVIDUAL POLITICAL CAREER, MAY CONSTITUTE DEFAMATION.
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06-20-2006, 02:28 PM
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Honorificabilitudinitatibus
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Originally Posted by rtejeda
CALLING THE "INDIVIDUAL", NOT THE IDEOLOGY, "A COMMUNIST" IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT MAY PERCEIVE COMMUNISM AS NEGATIVE AND IT MAY POTENTIALLY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT INTO THAT INDIVIDUAL POLITICAL CAREER, MAY CONSTITUTE DEFAMATION.
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Well, you may be right.
I'm not a lawyer.
I can't see it personally, but that's just my opinion.
PS: You shoud be answering Rick Snyder's questions.
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06-20-2006, 02:33 PM
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Doctor of Diplomacy
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Originally Posted by rtejeda
My name is "Lic. Ricardo Tejeda", I am not Ramon, and R. tejeda is the way it shows on this Thread. To Nals or whatever his name is"Stop the Madness and negativism".
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I can't tell you how impressive that "Lic." is in front of your name.
Scandall, Ph.D. in B.S.
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