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Old 04-07-2008, 04:42 PM
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I found Nuria's web page and its full of valuable information on the this case and others. If you look at her report about the house no where does she says the price of the house is 30 to 40 million pesos. That is a figure that has been invented by the education minister to obfuscate what the actual report says. There are various videos from Nuria answering and further explaining the progress of her report.

Nuria indicates that in her original report she is asking many questions about the property, but nowhere is she saying that these were acquired with public funds. The report with documentation does raise questions that justify suspicion that the dear minister has yet to give clear answers to. Nuria one of my real heroes.

Nuria Piera

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Old 04-07-2008, 05:23 PM
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Could someone with more info on this case please answer the above.....Chiri perhaps. Thanks.
The only mention of litigation that I've seen was in the recent DR1 news brief. Presumably it was in that day's newspapers.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:14 PM
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Nuria is great and of course she's right that this house is worth way more than Alejandrina claims. On the other hand NALS does bring a good point that Nuria is also human and is showing by not investigating her boyfriend/husband/whatver they are nowdays (Mr. Tourism) when everyone knows he's been involved in some shady business as well.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:25 PM
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If NALs pointed out that Nuria is human, like its the discovery of the century, then in my humble estimation she must be doing something right.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:11 AM
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She is the quintessential Dominican loser authority.

She ‘steals’ money to use for her own deluded self importance and criticizes other issues to deflect her obvious lack of anything moral. She radiates a deficient education that she is now in charge of.

How could she afford a home of that opulence? Why is she not brought to task on explaining how she afforded it?

Wear that badge of corruption and deceit as a badge of honor, moron.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:01 AM
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She is the quintessential Dominican loser authority.

She ‘steals’ money to use for her own deluded self importance and criticizes other issues to deflect her obvious lack of anything moral. She radiates a deficient education that she is now in charge of.

How could she afford a home of that opulence? Why is she not brought to task on explaining how she afforded it?

Wear that badge of corruption and deceit as a badge of honor, moron.
Lttle over the top. Her past record speaks for her education( done in a number of countries) and work ethic, and both her and her husband are politicians and professionals in their field. The land was bought in 1999 and the house started in 2002 and is not completed. It is entirely possible that the house was built with their own funds. There has not been proof of anything yet. Perhaps she is guilty and perhaps she is not.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:57 AM
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Wear that badge of corruption and deceit as a badge of honor, moron.
Unfortunately, here in the DR this seems to be the case. There is an absurd amount of lack of accountability, and many of the politicians know it. They purposely delfect blame and use big words to mislead the more or less uneducated majority.

I hate to say it but I have heard comments from Domincans talking about their family who made it big in politics and did whatever they could do legally and illegally to make sure they were set after their four years - and guess what, they discuss it so nonchalantly, if not proudly. Unfortunately, what these bozos don't realize is they are ridiculed and lambasted in Western society as being the clowns and immoral thieves that they are. There is a big disconnect between how their understanding of democracy and the real deal. Worse is the gall they have to criticize other countries politics and lack of democracy - amazing - straight from the stoneages. I suppose ignorance is bliss, eh?
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:13 PM
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Lttle over the top. Her past record speaks for her education( done in a number of countries) and work ethic, and both her and her husband are politicians and professionals in their field. The land was bought in 1999 and the house started in 2002 and is not completed. It is entirely possible that the house was built with their own funds. There has not been proof of anything yet. Perhaps she is guilty and perhaps she is not.
Does it really matter how big the lie, or how large the amount that has been stolen? The first is certain, the second is almost certain.
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Old 04-08-2008, 05:52 PM
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Lttle over the top. Her past record speaks for her education( done in a number of countries) and work ethic, and both her and her husband are politicians and professionals in their field. The land was bought in 1999 and the house started in 2002 and is not completed. It is entirely possible that the house was built with their own funds. There has not been proof of anything yet. Perhaps she is guilty and perhaps she is not.
All of this will be cleared up once the litigation ends. Until then, everyone will have to wait and see what comes out of all of this. Imagine how many people would be declared guilty had the courts taken the attitude of many here as oppose to using the law of evidence prior to convicting anyone of anything.

BTW, the litigation was initiated by Alejandrina Germán against Nuria Piera on the basis of defamation. From the presentation in Nuria's program, so far Alejandrina is the only politician taking action against Nuria's claims. The other politicians whose properties were presented in her show (among them was Miguel Vargas Maldonado's mansion in Casa de Campo) all have remained quiet regarding the accusation against them. In the case of Miguelito, he simply ignores reporters the moment they ask him about his villa.

Not only did Alejandrina live up to her word by actually offering the home to Nuria (despite many claiming she was bluffing), but she also live up to her word by commencing the litigation against Nuria since she didn't retracted from her difamatory accusation.

Hm, when there is nothing to hide, there is nothing to fear....

-NALs
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:10 PM
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Could you be kind enough to link us to the source that says the defamation case has been taken to the courts. I have not seen news reports indicating that Nuria has been served any court papers. Secretary German gave Nuria 72 hours to retract her report and that was almost a month ago and counting. Nuria responded she had nothing to retract and stood by her reporting.

On another note how can the secretary offer to sell the property to Nuria when the said property is in litigation as to actual ownership of the property, so it cannot be sold by anybody at the moment. Empty offer if there was one.

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