DR's Government and corruption.

[Chip]

Here's a good article about wages:

Sugiere subir sueldo de policÃ*as a RD$15,000 - Hoy Digital

[ExtremeR]

A recent article on the subject:

Interior y PolÃ*cia admite sueldos de la institución son muy bajos - Hoy Digital

[Mr_DR]

Originally Posted by Chip

Here's a good article about wages:

Sugiere subir sueldo de policÃ*as a RD$15,000 - Hoy Digital

Good for them!!!

The fact that it is taking a fellow citizen from the private sector to fight for them
should automatically give you a clue as to how corrupt they are.

Have you ever hear the saying that goes " the one that is stabbed is the one feeling the pain" ? Why can't they fight for themselves when it be for their own good?

If i was Leonel, I would agree to raise their pays but i would be much more strictly and would tell them that corruption will not be tolerated.

I would make sure that the national police go through a complete overhaul at whatever the cost. I would be firing members left to right until all bad apples are completely gone.

They just need to conduct a more thorough background and not hire individuals just because they are family or friend of someone.

[JDJones]

I can tell you that many years ago in Puerto Rico, the police dept. were almost as corrupt as they are here, and received very low salaries. It was fairly common to receive requests for 'gifts' back then as well.

The more you pay a policeman, the higher you can set your standards for recruits, and the result will be more qualified members. But to give more money to some of the clowns on the force here now? Not too smart.

I can also tell you I wouldn't think about offering a bribe to a PR policeman today.

[Mr_DR]

Originally Posted by ExtremeR

Hello, MR_Dr, I think you are Dominican like me so we can share a bit in our perspective on things.

100%

Originally Posted by ExtremeR

Second, do you think that a policeman risking his life in Capotillo or Gualey at 11:00 PM should be earning 8,000 Pesos per month??? what would that police officer think when all hell break loose? put order or save his life?? try to guess.

If they are not happy with the amount why don't they do something about it beside corruption? Doctors, teachers, students, drivers, and consumers do it.

Originally Posted by ExtremeR

I see you are blaming the cops on crooks walking away of jails, don't you know how the system is conceived?? that the fiscal should provide proof to the judge?? that if the fiscal doesn't provide that it isn't the cops fault?.

Please don't tell me that you don't think that there are not occasions when somebody
is not arrested because of who they may know.

You being Dominican should know that much there is about "WHO YOU ARE and WHO YOU KNOW".

Originally Posted by ExtremeR

I know that there is corruption at the police level, but what do you think they have to do when they are earning pennies to risk their lives?? About the innocents man killed by their hands you should first provide some proof or links before making that kind of accusation, one thing is rumors that you heard by people in the streets and another thing is to confirm something, and make accusations based on that rumours so please, I beg you to do a little more research before making an statement like that.

I have done my research, which is why i know it happens. Now you need to do yours before trying to tell yourself that it doesn't.

[Mr_DR]

Originally Posted by JDJones

I can tell you that many years ago in Puerto Rico, the police dept. were almost as corrupt as they are here, and received very low salaries. It was fairly common to receive requests for 'gifts' back then as well.

The more you pay a policeman, the higher you can set your standards for recruits, and the result will be more qualified members. But to give more money to some of the clowns on the force here now? Not too smart.

I can also tell you I wouldn't think about offering a bribe to a PR policeman today.

I am very sure that it took somebody with balls and determination to do a complete clean system clean up.

[Texas Bill]

Back in WWII, I was sent to the Military Police School atBuckley Field, Colorado.
The course was only 6 weeks long, but packed with the type of training, n an abbreviated form, that all law enforcement candidates go through.
After that short course, I spent the next 6 months patrolling the streets of San Angelo, TX, doing guard duty on crashed aircraft, etc., etc.
Later, while attending the U. of Houston, I got the job of being a "Campus Cop". While that wasn't exactly police work, we did learn a lot more about traffic control, public relations, andhow not to hand out a ticket.
From what I have seen of theNational Police andtheAMET, they could all do with a bit of that type of training--IN DEPTH.
Ongoing training iswhat is needed, after the initial phase, of course.
I think one of themain problems is thatthe rookies just don't knowhow to do their job and the heirarchy could care less.
TB

[MikeFisher]

right Bill,
and MR DR:
Second, do you think that a policeman risking his life in Capotillo or Gualey at 11:00 PM should be earning 8,000 Pesos per month??? what would that police officer think when all hell break loose? put order or save his life?? try to guess.
If they are not happy with the amount why don't they do something about it beside corruption? Doctors, teachers, students, drivers, and consumers do it.
do someWHAT about it?????
do you think non organized dominican low ranked police officers guarding a street check point for traffic on a simple crossing in Veron Punta Cana or Guerra/Bayaguana/Cruze de Guaguacanes can go "on the streets
and DO SOMETHING about it like some educated citizens like your mentioned doctors or such could do???
i really think it is time that you do your research or start to learn about this country's basics before slamming on poster which told you exactly the reality.
Mike

[ExtremeR]

Mr_DR what do you think will happen to a law and order force agent who must be loyal to the President of the Republic by law if they go to a strike?? What you suggest is very close to hillarious, you will never see a cop going on strike, eso es considerado rebelion y le dan de baja right away.

I agree with Texas Bill 100%.

[Mr_DR]

Originally Posted by ExtremeR

Mr_DR what do you think will happen to a law and order force agent who must be loyal to the President of the Republic by law if they go to a strike?? What you suggest is very close to hillarious, you will never see a cop going on strike, eso es considerado rebelion y le dan de baja right away.

I agree with Texas Bill 100%.

That's your opinion. IMO, instead of getting fired they would make their statement much quicker. How do you think that a city will be able to function without law and order?

You thinking that a country could afford to fire their entire police force is hillarious.

They don't have to go on strike but they can for sure let their voices be heard in so many other ways.