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11-12-2008, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rubio_higuey
The loss of power in the system is between 42% and 50% as admitted by Radhames Segura.
Even taken the lower number, out of 1000 MW generated, 420 is either lost in the transmission process or stolen.
You do the math....
Nowadays we are talking 200, 300 MW are missing on the generation side daily to supply the demand. But to supply the demand which includes electric thieves. If you remove those people from the grid, there will be actually a surplus of generation.
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A very large one indeed!
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11-12-2008, 12:05 PM
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We face a huge problem in the DR! We have to de-program decades of free-loading and tax evasion, gun permit abuses, liquor while driving (the only place to have your car detailed while you get stoned drunk to later drive your shiny car around), Kamikazes on two wheels (and one too), wrecks rolling in the streets without ever paying attention to transit rules, my vehicle is larger than yours so it's my way or the morgue for you, etc...
You have to understand that the gov can fix the problem overnight but face not being a gov the next morning or worst... Be made an example of the popular discontent and burned alive on the 12:00 noon news...
Just as the LPG Gas bottle is being taken slowly but surely away, so will too Gasoline, Electricity and other "inherited" rights from the "Dominican" entity...
We have millions of Haitians in the country b/c men in the DR "inherit" a street corner, a dominoes set and table, a portable radio and the right to go dancing each weekend without having to work a 9 to 5 job...
Enough said!
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11-12-2008, 12:24 PM
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"We have millions of Haitians in the country b/c men in the DR "inherit" a street corner, a dominoes set and table, a portable radio and the right to go dancing each weekend without having to work a 9 to 5 job..."
A good and valid point Picardo. The question of personal responsiblity, and what it takes to make it an integral part of the DR culture. A popular and positive value-system is a difficult concept to manage, and more difficult to create. It can only be established over time, and through a conscious effort by a country's leaders.
And I am afraid that is the sticking point. Leaders have to demonstrate their ability to walk the walk, as they talk the talk. In other words, they have to lead by example, and, as things stand now, there is precious little of that in the DR.
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11-12-2008, 08:12 PM
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Or the near future as well...
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11-13-2008, 09:40 AM
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It can take generations to make these kinds of changes! It will not be fast but it does need to happen and it has to start somewhere.
It takes leaders with courage and political will to make it happen! AND it takes encouragement from other countries and from foreigners who live here..... IMHO.
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11-13-2008, 11:15 AM
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Just out of interest - which is the department or government minister that has responsibility for electricity?
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11-15-2008, 05:25 PM
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I first went to the D.R. on business in 1982, moved there in 1986 and worked there until December 2002. In 1982, there was serious problems with black outs and electricity. I left in December of 2002 because I was being billed $1,000 U.S. a month for electricity in my home, plus spending about RD $500 a day for diesel fuel for my generator, needed when there was no electricity. The problem in 1982 was caused mostly by people stealing electricity from the grid and the problem in 2002 was the same thing. The problem is not the government not paying the generating companies, it is the CDE not being able to collect from the citizens for the electricity used or stolen, therefore they can not pay the generating companies.
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11-16-2008, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by IslandDreaming
I'll take that bet! I brought my Hayes Tech M1030 into the DR back in April (I think). I'm not sure of your definition of flex fuel, but that creature will run on just about anything combustible and pull the Metro while doing so.
It appears there has been some delay in release of the "civilian" Bulldog version, but if you ask real nice and have cash in hand, they can be purchased
Far as I am concerned it is the perfect DR bike, not a highway cruiser but it will go 70mph all day at 100 mpg
The suspension was designed for military use, as is the whole bike, so not even the super smooth roads of he DR will faze it
It only weighs around 350 lbs and 35 pounds of torque will haul you almost vertical, one heck of an off road machine
It is not the highway cruiser that Cobra Boy uses on his tours, but head of the paved road and I'll bet CB won't argue about trying to keep up. Should you run low on fule, find teh nearest tractor, loader or even distillery and the engine will be happy to accomodate
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I just saw this.. Let me know if you ever decide to sell that puppy..
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11-16-2008, 11:17 AM
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People will pay electricity if they have electricity at least if the Gov. get a deal with low income families to pay little better than nothing, use some of the airport taxes to finance electricity or local taxes to cover energy bill.
If at least they have the service they will pay for it. They should see the Town of Beron on the way to Punta Cana. Even the getto business have electricity and pay for it. Yes is a private company as well the rest of the contry has too, different yes. but they can see their examples.
I dont blame the citizen of not paying their electricity bill but not one would pay for a service you dont get.
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11-16-2008, 11:30 AM
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hi Homer,
don't get confused with Veron and ghettos,
Veron is not a poor man's world and the whole area including Veron is on 24/7 CEPM electrical power. expensive but reliable.
who does not pay his bill is disconnected right away and has to pay a extra fee for the reconnection.
people are used to it and it works since a very long time just fine.
use airport taxes to pay the gubmin's missmanagement in case of financings??
just stop any more wastes of money on the metro and there will be a chance to pay the missing electricity.
but without a Metro the corrupts would sure find an other way to get the $$.
Mike
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