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01-27-2009, 08:58 AM
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DR and the Economy
With the world's economy falling apart could you guys imagine
where DR would be right now under the big HIPPO?
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01-27-2009, 09:33 AM
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Mr DR, usually when someone asks a rhetorical question such as the one you are asking they have an opinion. What is your opinion?
My opinion is it wouldn't make much of a difference. It's pretty much the same game. Perhaps with Hippo there would be a little less stability, but who knows.
There would be some difference in who wins and who loses, but it would be the same deal in the same game, when all is said and done.
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01-27-2009, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by catcherintherye
Mr DR, usually when someone asks a rhetorical question such as the one you are asking they have an opinion. What is your opinion?
My opinion is it wouldn't make much of a difference. It's pretty much the same game. Perhaps with Hippo there would be a little less stability, but who knows.
There would be some difference in who wins and who loses, but it would be the same deal in the same game, when all is said and done.
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Please tell me that you are kidding,
With Hippo as our leader under this situation would have knocked down the Dominican Republic to the worst economic level in decades.
We are talking about someone that while in office could not handle bank crisis, the stability of the DR's currency and the economy, did not know how to communicate and on top of that did not even have one gram of ethic.
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He makes a better comedian than president.
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01-27-2009, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by catcherintherye
Mr DR, usually when someone asks a rhetorical question such as the one you are asking they have an opinion. What is your opinion?
My opinion is it wouldn't make much of a difference. It's pretty much the same game. Perhaps with Hippo there would be a little less stability, but who knows.
There would be some difference in who wins and who loses, but it would be the same deal in the same game, when all is said and done.
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YouTube - Las Mejores Hipolitadas
YouTube - Hipolito Mejia parte 1
YouTube - Hipolito Mejia parte 2
Please tell me that you are kidding,
With Hippo as our leader under this situation would have knocked down the Dominican Republic to the worst economic level in decades.
We are talking about someone that while in office could not handle bank crisis, the stability of the DR's currency and the economy, did not know how to communicate and on top of that did not even have one gram of ethic.
He makes a better comedian than president.
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01-27-2009, 06:36 PM
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While I wasn't exactly kidding, I really just wanted to see where you stood on the issue. I figured I would get a response out of you, one way or the other.
Although I think Leonel is a kinder, gentler, smarter version of Hippo, and he is substantially kinder, gentler, and smarter, and the impact of the world-wide economy is somewhat muted, there is still the potential for some major fallout yet to come, and Leonel hasn't completely escaped untouched.
I also think that while Hippo was a stupid crook and a bad liar, the bottom line is this, a crook is still a crook, and a liar is still a liar.
Often, it is better to have to deal with a stupid crook and a bad liar. That way they are easier to catch.
Leonel is not so easy to catch.
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01-27-2009, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by catcherintherye
While I wasn't exactly kidding, I really just wanted to see where you stood on the issue. I figured I would get a response out of you, one way or the other.
Although I think Leonel is a kinder, gentler, smarter version of Hippo, and he is substantially kinder, gentler, and smarter, and the impact of the world-wide economy is somewhat muted, there is still the potential for some major fallout yet to come, and Leonel hasn't completely escaped untouched.
I also think that while Hippo was a stupid crook and a bad liar, the bottom line is this, a crook is still a crook, and a liar is still a liar.
Often, it is better to have to deal with a stupid crook and a bad liar. That way they are easier to catch.
Leonel is not so easy to catch.
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I also rather deal with a crook and liar that will have the country more stable
than a stupid crook and a liar that doesn't have a clue on how to lead a country.
Thank god Leonel was there to repair almost all his atrocities after taking office.
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01-27-2009, 09:11 PM
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"I also rather deal with a crook and liar that will have the country more stable
than a stupid crook and a liar that doesn't have a clue on how to lead a country."
Well yes, of course, if you compare one thing with something worse, the first thing will look pretty good in comparison. That doesn't mean that it is the best thing available, or even that it is better than anything else except for the worse thing.
Just because Leonel looks good in comparison to Hippo does not mean he is a great, or even good president. It just means he is better than Hippo.
What if you compared Leonel to say, Duarte, for example. How would he look then?
The thing is, Leonel is smart, and he has done enough to improve things so that he looks rather decent.
However, the DR has to ask itself this question, what could he, or should he have done to make this a better country. Also you have to ask what did he leave undone, and what things have been left to rot?
Those are not easy questions to answer, and you might get a much different image of Leonel if you asked them.
And finally, you have to ask what was he capable of accomplishing, and how much time, effort, talent and money was wasted on Leonel's cronies, corruption in general, and misplaced priorities?
All those questions are much more meaningful than asking how he compares to Hippo. How he compares to Hippo is a no-brainer. The other questions will define how he is viewed in the history books.
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01-27-2009, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by catcherintherye
"I also rather deal with a crook and liar that will have the country more stable
than a stupid crook and a liar that doesn't have a clue on how to lead a country."
Well yes, of course, if you compare one thing with something worse, the first thing will look pretty good in comparison. That doesn't mean that it is the best thing available, or even that it is better than anything else except for the worse thing.
Just because Leonel looks good in comparison to Hippo does not mean he is a great, or even good president. It just means he is better than Hippo.
What if you compared Leonel to say, Duarte, for example. How would he look then?
The thing is, Leonel is smart, and he has done enough to improve things so that he looks rather decent.
However, the DR has to ask itself this question, what could he, or should he have done to make this a better country. Also you have to ask what did he leave undone, and what things have been left to rot?
Those are not easy questions to answer, and you might get a much different image of Leonel if you asked them.
And finally, you have to ask what was he capable of accomplishing, and how much time, effort, talent and money was wasted on Leonel's cronies, corruption in general, and misplaced priorities?
All those questions are much more meaningful than asking how he compares to Hippo. How he compares to Hippo is a no-brainer. The other questions will define how he is viewed in the history books.
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I think he will be nicely viewed in the history books right along the side of Trujillo, Balaguer, Guzman and Bosch as the only presidents in DR's history within the last century that have bring stability to the country.
It is true that his administration spends money but one thing that we have to realize is that it takes money to make money. I know that many of you are the first ones to criticise any spending on projects such as the many projects that have been taking place within the last decades.
This kind of mentality is what keeps a country poor, these are the people that never want to see the Republic move ahead and are the first one to protest a government investment project that in fact is going to benefit them as well as generations to come.
They are the first ones to complain on how much money Leonel has spent but they don't talk about the source that dictated where the money was spent.
They are the ones that think that roads, schools, parks and museums are magically made without requiring any expenses.
They are the ones that would probably want the government to waste money feeding them fish for a year instead of having the government invest the money to send their sons and daughters to Israel to learn how to catch them.
It is just so amuzing also that these are the first people to complain and beg the government to fix their street yet they are also the first ones to say that the governement is spending too much money.
In every government in the world there will always be corruptions and we can't do much about it because they will always find the way to get away with corruptions but since we really can't control it we have no other choice but to focus more on the good things they do until the time comes to give somebody else a try.
Imo, Leonel would be hard to beat as one of the top 3 presidents in history making a difference in the country. Or can you tell me of somebody else?
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01-27-2009, 11:39 PM
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"I think he will be nicely viewed in the history books right along the side of Trujillo, Balaguer, Guzman and Bosch as the only presidents in DR's history within the last century that have bring stability to the country."
Boy, who would have guessed that? Another revisionist rears his somewhat vacuous head.
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01-28-2009, 10:24 AM
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Imo, Leonel would be hard to beat as one of the top 3 presidents in history making a difference in the country. Or can you tell me of somebody else?
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This is akin to a seven-year-old boy asking his great-grandfather which Nintendo version he used as a kid.
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