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Old 02-12-2009, 08:59 AM
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We, as in the real Dominicans, are the ones that must get rid of this piece of crap imposed on us called "Democracy" for the emerging countries.
i don't even read anything that pichardo posts anymore because he's usually so far off the mark it makes me gag.

and this is why.

you're a REAL dominican? come back and live in your own country and get out of mine, then. having dominican parents and/or passport doesn't make you a dominican. living and breathing and dealing with this rampant corruption on a daily basis make you a REAL dominican, and well... as far as we know, you don't do that, do you?
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:05 AM
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Pichardo, you do realise, don't you that the UK House of Lords is neither elected nor salaried (currently) and that it's powers to reject bills passed by the House of Commons (the body of elected representatives) is heavily restricted by the Parliament Acts and that in certain instances bills passed by the Commons can go straight for Royal Assent? Thus the actual work of governance rests with the Commons. So if you want to talk about corruption in the British Government, you really have to focus on the Commons, not the Lords. You also realise, no doubt, that the prevailing perception of the House of Lords is that of doddering old (in the main) men in fancy dress making rambling speeches to their sleeping (or possibly deceased) peers?

Now please tell me what you mean when you say members of the House of Lords are placed on 'restrictive duties'.

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instead they're place on restrictive duties and fined what bobbies would call a low down shame...
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:16 AM
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Berzin what the hell were you thinking when you posted that!!!!????
Discussing anything with you is like trying to wrestle a hedgehog covered in Vaseline. Slippery as hell, and prickly when corralled.

I wasn't asking for a social commentary of how corrupt MY government is, that I know all too well. And my comments, though disagreeable at times, can hardly be deemed so obtuse as to warrant your off-topic, obfuscating rant.

If I need to ask the same question again, I will. And I will rephrase it for the sake of making it easier to answer.

Where do you see the correlation between the Dominican authorities aiding Italian police in capturing this international fugitive and your contention that this is a harbinger of change in regards to ending corruption in the DR?

Try to answer the question with facts, and not with fictitious artist renderings of what you think Santo Domingo will look like in the year 3035 like you did in the Metro thread.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:07 PM
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I shall not bother to 'Quote' PICHARDO's post #20 as it neither responds to my question NOR has relevance to any other part of the OP (The OP must be getting MAD that PICHARDO has taken this so far off topic!! ) Suffice to say "I rest my case"!

We look forward to you coming back to your homeland PICHARDO & joining those of us that ALREADY live here IN REALITY!! I am sure Santiago's AZB & other like-minded KNOWLEDGABLE neighbours will be happy to give you a quick indoctrination to your homeland's ways!! Please stay in touch & let us know how it goes!!

Berzin ~ I wish you good luck at getting anything LIKE a pertinent response.

LaTeacher ~ Forgive him at present as he is busy packing to move down here & the boxes he is filling up might previously have been used for some form of 'powder' that helps to numb the effective part of the brain. Normal service MIGHT be returned once he starts to live in the DR!! ~ Grahame (in a truly jocular mood today!!)
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:29 PM
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Discussing anything with you is like trying to wrestle a hedgehog covered in Vaseline. Slippery as hell, and prickly when corralled.

I wasn't asking for a social commentary of how corrupt MY government is, that I know all too well. And my comments, though disagreeable at times, can hardly be deemed so obtuse as to warrant your off-topic, obfuscating rant.

If I need to ask the same question again, I will. And I will rephrase it for the sake of making it easier to answer.

Where do you see the correlation between the Dominican authorities aiding Italian police in capturing this international fugitive and your contention that this is a harbinger of change in regards to ending corruption in the DR?

Try to answer the question with facts, and not with fictitious artist renderings of what you think Santo Domingo will look like in the year 3035 like you did in the Metro thread.
i would say the big improve is THAT HE GOT CAUGHT!
few years back (like he did) he would just be one of the numerous guys(foreigners and ex-locals/locals) who live a very good life with their illegal money on a caribbean paradise isle, not bothered by any authorities, b/c their money paid their freedom, today's they get caught.

is such so hard to understand?
Mike
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:09 AM
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i don't even read anything that pichardo posts anymore because he's usually so far off the mark it makes me gag.

Sorry to all for getting off the subject but this makes sense.
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:34 AM
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i don't even read anything that pichardo posts anymore because he's usually so far off the mark it makes me gag.

and this is why.

you're a REAL dominican? come back and live in your own country and get out of mine, then. having dominican parents and/or passport doesn't make you a dominican. living and breathing and dealing with this rampant corruption on a daily basis make you a REAL dominican, and well... as far as we know, you don't do that, do you?
100% Born, raised and educated in the DR...
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:40 AM
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Pichardo, you do realise, don't you that the UK House of Lords is neither elected nor salaried (currently) and that it's powers to reject bills passed by the House of Commons (the body of elected representatives) is heavily restricted by the Parliament Acts and that in certain instances bills passed by the Commons can go straight for Royal Assent? Thus the actual work of governance rests with the Commons. So if you want to talk about corruption in the British Government, you really have to focus on the Commons, not the Lords. You also realise, no doubt, that the prevailing perception of the House of Lords is that of doddering old (in the main) men in fancy dress making rambling speeches to their sleeping (or possibly deceased) peers?

Now please tell me what you mean when you say members of the House of Lords are placed on 'restrictive duties'.
Lambada read again the posts as we talk about the MPs and political overall system and not one particular house/member/seat/post/title/etc...

However, with that being cleared out of the way: Did you NOT know that the Lords are directly in participation on the actual works in the local level, that for which the Lords in my mini-examples clears away any doubts to the fact. The Lords were asking for bribes in order to move legal matters to clear the way or block others in the benefit of the buyers...

If you really don't understand how the UK political system is set up, please does some fact finding before you attempt to attack my base for argument here...
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:07 PM
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Discussing anything with you is like trying to wrestle a hedgehog covered in Vaseline. Slippery as hell, and prickly when corralled.

I wasn't asking for a social commentary of how corrupt MY government is, that I know all too well. And my comments, though disagreeable at times, can hardly be deemed so obtuse as to warrant your off-topic, obfuscating rant.

If I need to ask the same question again, I will. And I will rephrase it for the sake of making it easier to answer.

Where do you see the correlation between the Dominican authorities aiding Italian police in capturing this international fugitive and your contention that this is a harbinger of change in regards to ending corruption in the DR?

Try to answer the question with facts, and not with fictitious artist renderings of what you think Santo Domingo will look like in the year 3035 like you did in the Metro thread.
The liaison’s office in charge of operations with INTERPOL in the DR is 100% independent of the internal Police/Judicial system. Only the established mechanisms agreed by all INTERPOL signatory nations are followed. This work is providing the legal amplitude for the internal corruption levels in the DR, to become within legal and authority's reach of any dealings that break the law committed by any member of the gov.

Take the purchase of the Super Tucanos in Brazil or the Marbella case in Spain. Both fall under INTERPOL jurisdiction and legal reach. INTERPOL is more than a multinational fugitive recovery agency. It's developing into a multinational law and order arm with ample resources to investigate and prosecute more kinds of crimes than before.

The reason the units that are assigned to INTERPOL in the DR are so effective, is that they operate in total independency to that of our Judicial and Police organs. They'll only present their final investigation and criminal charges at the end of the operations, both conducted by the liaison officers and members within the units from the DR's institutions.

Before this was not the case and MO for the INTERPOL office in the DR. The first result for the new chain of command and operations, was the removal of crooked officers from both the DR and foreign members.

INTERPOL is being used to conduct investigations in the DR, free from political, judicial or police pressures. Both natives and foreign nationals are no longer in any protective mumbo jumbo of legalities or minefields, which obstructed most investigations/prosecutions here before.

Corruption in the DR was handled just as drug lords did as well. Transferring funds to overseas accounts under the cloak of gov entities and personalities in power/positions. Most of the latest cases have culminated after an investigation was originated beyond the DR's realm of power and control. Once INTERPOL follows the leads within the country (here in the DR), they keep the entire investigation to themselves till conclusion. Later, a request is made from the main prosecution point to send the guilty to face the music and the findings provided un-filtered to the DR's media (as INTERPOL now publishes the final actions/findings in their international press reports).

While the SD Metro was being built, INTERPOL was busy investigating some of the involved multinational companies for any traces of corporate crimes before, during and after the effect. No major or substantiated negativities were found in the dealings/contracts.

Those companies are STILL under the eye of investigators today.

Those are the facts...
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:28 PM
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100% Born, raised and educated in the DR...
Which is proved by the way you totally misunderstand many of the posts written about YOUR country from OUTSIDE the country by people who actually LIVE, EAT & BREATH this beautiful country on a daily basis.
(Your Grammar is becoming somewhat suspect too - time for a bit of Senior Citizen education maybe?)

Learn some basic courtesy skills when replying to people who disagree with you. Until then ...................

I AM TOTALLY OUT OF YOUR POSTS!!
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