Puerto Plata: The police state!

[BushBaby]

Sorry if I offended Richard Alberto but to answer your question seriously I am someone who would like to see this topic discussed IN RELATION TO THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. Your subsequent post does that in explaining 'The Why & how' but the former did not - hence my suggestion to the moderator.

Berzin's outburst to protect his beloved NYC did not in ANY way relate to the Dominican Republic. I am well experienced in having posts deleted for supporting &/or disagreeing with people who go off topic & consequently felt you would understand the need for the call I made. I AGREE TOTALLY with your remonstration let it be said! ~ Grahame.

[Richard Alberto]

Thank you Grahame, you're logic is admirable and respected.

[Richard Alberto]

Getting back to the post's origin. As I mentioned there will be some errors committed and flagrant arrests committed.

You know what this does and makes people stay home and not stray to far from where their going. Is this bad maybe, perhaps yes. But think about it in a tourist town like Sosua if all you have are tourists walking the streets at night is this REALLY such a bad thing. Listen I know locals would say, hey my rights are being violated. However, when you have drug dealers approaching tourists, chain snatchers, lurking behind cars and riding as the passengers on mopeds ready to pounce on a visiting couple or single guy/gal having fun, it's hard to pick and choose. For awhile stay off the streets if you have no business there. Where are you going? Then get the hell there and stop hanging on the corners. Theses plastic chairs and tourist hanging unknowingly on sidewalks are a victim asking to be taken. Isn't it better to go into an establishment in safety and have a good time.

General Then is trying to protect the tourist in a TOURIST town and the $$$$ they bring in.

Where's the problem in the overall economy of these tourist towns?

[FernieBee]

Originally Posted by Richard Alberto

...when you have drug dealers approaching tourists, chain snatchers, lurking behind cars and riding as the passengers on mopeds ready to pounce on a visiting couple or single guy/gal having fun, it's hard to pick and choose...

That's an effective way of stating your point.

[Richard Alberto]

I just realized that I made a ton of grammatical errors but please don't let this take away from my logic in responding to this very interesting thread. Thank you.

[Berzin]

Richard Alberto-all I was doing was correcting media-driven misconceptions about this man. He gets credit for many things that he was not responsible for, and I will make no apologies for setting the record straight on the things that I know.

If that makes me a know-it-all in your eyes that is a judgment call, not an observation based on anything I've written.

[b.batista]

Originally Posted by Berzin

Richard Alberto-all I was doing was correcting media-driven misconceptions about this man. He gets credit for many things that he was not responsible for, and I will make no apologies for setting the record straight on the things that I know.



If that makes me a know-it-all in your eyes that is a judgment call, not an observation based on anything I've written.

Moderators have to observe the forum rules too and if you go off topic you will not be entitled to expect any respect when you berate someone for going off topic and you reduce your effectiveness as a moderator. You must practice what you preach and lead by example. The Kool Aid comment was way out of line and unacceptable.

[Lambada]

Forgive me for intruding into this thread with some news of further developments in Sosua and Puerto Plata. Anyone interested in hearing?

First Sosua, today Monday
YouTube - www elnuevonorte com APARATOSO OPERATIVO MIXTO EN LA CALLE PEDRO CLISANTE

El Nuevo Norte > Inicio

And Puerto Plata:

OFICIALES Y SARGENTO PRESOS SOLICITAN HABEAS CORPUS, PERO DESISTEN

El Nuevo Norte > Inicio

El Nuevo Norte > Inicio

If anyone doesn't understand Spanish, please PM Berzin whom I'm sure will be only too pleased to help out. Thanks Berzin.

[FernieBee]

Originally Posted by Lambada

YouTube - www elnuevonorte com APARATOSO OPERATIVO MIXTO EN LA CALLE PEDRO CLISANTE

Thanks for posting that.

I don't know whether to be impressed, by the police effort to clean up the area, or scared to show up, in a couple more months.

[Lambada]

Originally Posted by FernieBee

Thanks for posting that.

I don't know whether to be impressed, by the police effort to clean up the area, or scared to show up, in a couple more months.

In a couple more months there probably won't be many of the same people still around.........today more DNCD arrests in Sosua, all connected with the Internal Affairs investigation.
PERSONAL COMPLETO DNCD EN SOSUA ARRESTADO EN SANTO DOMINGO

Plus the 3 Fiscals have now been named, detained & taken to SD BUT whether these are wanted as being connected or merely as witnesses with evidence for the investigation, is unclear. One of the Fiscals is the lady who was investigating the killing of the 3 civilians by Police in broad daylight in PP several weeks back.
DETIENEN Y TRASLADAN A SANTO DOMINGO TRES PROCURADORES FISCALES

What creased me about the video, FernieBee, was the look on the faces of the two tourists - almost as if they thought this was part of the 'entertainment'.............

I have another video of something that happened yesterday in La Cienaga. Edenorte arrived with military escort to cut off people who hadn't been paying their bills. They got refused entry by a mob of people so they retreated to the Edenorte local office, which was then surrounded by same mob. Some of these people were at pains to show the camera their paid electricity bills btw. Eventually Edenorte & military escort left without cutting off anything. If you want to see the video let me know.