PRD back in power in 2012?

[ExtremeR]

Originally Posted by mido

Do you really think it can get worse than now?

Are you serious?? What is happening now?? The dollar is steady a 35.8, inflation is in check a single digits number in an annual basis, unemployment rates are still better than in 2003, and all of that with the international crisis almost off.

Do you want to go back to the days of 50% inflation rates, the dollar at 58 X 1, GPD growth at -2.2, crime rates wayyyyy higher than what it is now? The government buildings runways so narcos airplanes can land there and unload the "mercancia", all in all a complete disaster. So yes I really think that this could be really worse.

[suarezn]

Originally Posted by mido

Do you really think it can get worse than now?

Hmmm....Yes. If any of the previous PRD governments are any indication then it could get way worse. We could be back to the days of the peso devaluing 30%+ from one day to the next. I think the PLD is corrupt, but The PRD takes the cake...and the lights, and the balloons, and everything that's not bolted on...

Also you wrote that economic situation in The DR is so bad that the current government's approval ratings are the pits. I beg to disagree. The economic situation is not THAT bad and we all know that if Fernandez ran again he would win. People haven't completely forgotten the Hipo years just yet.

[bienamor]

Hippo? god no , and the same for any other PLD hack, the only reason they ran last time is they thought HIPPO might have left some money laying around to be scooped up. I have no respect for the PLD if for nothing else than the animals that run all over the capital painting PLD/MVP on anything they can find. They have no respect for other peoples property. gre:gre:

[brisas]

If PRD wins in 2012, I am out of this country in a hurry.

PLD is not the best that it could be, but it manages reasonably well. PRD is a total fiasco. Under the best circumstances, they have shown to be incapable of any fiscal or legal restraint.

The governments from that party, presided by Jorge Blanco, and Hipolito Mejia, have shown they have people too corrupt and disorganized to run effectively anything; some of those folks lack any kind of psychological constraints. They would not hesitate to run down the country like they did in the days of HIPO or SJB.

My vision for a PRD regime, under the duress of US partial economic recovery AND high oil prices is total devaluation of the peso, run away inflation, foreign debt skyrocketing, and hunger.. hunger the like of which we haven't seen in many years since the days of the "españa boba". oh.. and, did i say drugs? Do you see the guy involved in the Marbella case breaking away from his maffia friends, anytime soon?

you can sign me out if it comes to such a sad event: a PRD return to power.

[bienamor]

Originally Posted by bienamor

hippo? God no , and the same for any other pld hack, the only reason they ran last time is they thought hippo might have left some money laying around to be scooped up. I have no respect for the pld if for nothing else than the animals that run all over the capital painting pld/mvp on anything they can find. They have no respect for other peoples property. gre:gre:

ment prd, i'm sorry

[NALs]

The PRD doesn't have a modernization program. They are all about focusing on agriculture and quite frankly, the future of the country is NOT agriculture. Heck, that's not a future.

But history speaks louder than mere words and history is readily available to whomever is interested. Do your own investigations and you will see the obvious, every time the PRD is in power:

A) Something happens to the economy. Can't really blame them for this, the PRD doesn't plan these things.

and

B) They exacerbate the economic problem by doing the complete opposite of what they are suppose to be doing. Now, this falls squarely on their laps!

IMO, had the PRD been in power right now, the DR economy would had been in the toilet along with the U.S. and Puerto Rico. These people have proven to not be capable of effectively handling any crisis, regardless if its an internal banking crisis or an external recession as in the '80s. Check how the DR economy faired back then under PRD rule.

They need to change their top people and develop a viable development plan, until then they are no good in my book.

All they are focused is short term gains which ravages the long term development, almost the opposite of what the PLD has done.

This is not mere words, its proven in actions. Check the history.

Juan Bosch was and still is (in memory) the most progressive Dominican politician to had ever walked that soil. He created the PRD and subsequently left and created the PLD. This type of things happens when a true leader realizes that the interest of the country is not the main priority of a party that claims to be the "party of the poor", and yet the poor are the people that are hurt the most when they are in charge.

Go figure!
-NALs

[Lambada]

Originally Posted by Chirimoya

Who will be the PLD candidate in 2012? Danilo Medina?

Margarita Cedeño???

[aegap]

Danilo Medina and that other Fernandez guy, the current environmental minister, seem a little more decent than Fernandez, though one can't really say for sure how itchy-palmed they'd become with absolute power (at least in theory) on their hands. But, if anything, either would at least drive the country to hell at a slower pace than the current alternative.

[Chirimoya]

My dream candidate would be Minou Tavarez.
Jaime David is perhaps a more realistic prospect but now he is also betraying people's hopes with his approval of a cement factory on the edge of Los Haitises National Park.

Nals, I believe the PRD will just continue where the current lot have left off, including the second line of the metro. They might handle it with less efficiency and the corruption will take different shapes and forms, but otherwise nothing much will change.

[suarezn]

Originally Posted by Chirimoya

My dream candidate would be Minou Tavarez.
Jaime David is perhaps a more realistic prospect but now he is also betraying people's hopes with his approval of a cement factory on the edge of Los Haitises National Park.

Nals, I believe the PRD will just continue where the current lot have left off, including the second line of the metro. They might handle it with less efficiency and the corruption will take different shapes and forms, but otherwise nothing much will change.

Funny how perceptions change over time. Minou (now a champion for women's right) was a Balaguer protege. He made her what she is today and she was definitely very well entrenched in that other very corrupt red party of yesteryears.

Jaime David is/was IMO a very decent and even honest man whom I would have liked to see become president...but as you said you never know how people will react once they are in power.

Danilo Medina is your typical Dominican politician. I don't believe I've ever heard him stand for anything, other than just trying to maneuver his way within the PLD to get money, power, etc with a faction he kind of leads within the party. He reminds me a lot of Ramon Albulquerque...they are just in politics for the sake of politics and money (I know they all are, but these guys even more so).

I really wish the PRD would just continue down the path of the current government - At least not a lot of harm can happen that way. That's what everyone thought when Hippo came to power and a couple of years later the country was going down the crapper faster than a real turd...