PRD back in power in 2012?

[BushBaby]

My iew is that LF agreed to the 'Pact' beause he realised it was going to be a struggle to get 'Re-election' through on the amendments to the Constitution. HOWEVER, I believe he is FAR from wanting to give up the perks of Presidency AND his ability to forward his dream for ................... (fill in your own ideas - Canonisation, Founding Father, deification etc.).

Once this 'Pact' has been ratified by the two main parties & the municipal elections of 2010 have been won by the PLD ........... watch out for a heavy campaign to put Margarita Cedeño into the public eye & then the 'announcement' of her Presidential aspirations towards the middle of 2011!!!!

Is this country ready for a woman President do you think? The US got close so why can't the DR actually DO IT!! Could it be that PICHARDO's important 'Business Group that determines ALL THINGS' has already made this decision? ~ Grahame

[suarezn]

Originally Posted by BushBaby

Could it be that PICHARDO's important 'Business Group that determines ALL THINGS' has already made this decision? ~ Grahame

OF COURSE...How did I miss that? I knew somewhere in there there was "Gato entre macuto".

Since we now have "matured" as a democracy and we have a defacto two party system (everyone else is inconsequential at this point) I think the country may be better served if they just spared the public from all this grandstanding and just agree to each party have a turn every four years. MVM is your turn in 2012, back to Leonel in 2016, then back to MVM and so on. Divide government positions 50/50 and only have elections internally within the party to determine who's going to represent it for their next turn.

...I know...I know...just dreaming.

[Chirimoya]

That's the system they had in Venezuela: worked really well until a certain Hugo Chávez came and ruined it all for them...

[NALs]

Originally Posted by Chirimoya

Nals, I believe the PRD will just continue where the current lot have left off, including the second line of the metro. They might handle it with less efficiency and the corruption will take different shapes and forms, but otherwise nothing much will change.

I'm not so sure. Many projects that were started under the first PLD years were paralyzed and remained paralyzed during the 2000-2004 PRD rule. Many were finished once the PLD was back in power. Everything the PLD originally put in place in terms of legislation that was pro-development (including amending the constitution to eliminate re-election) was undone under PRD. And then there was a crisis. Let's not forget the defacto elimination of Free Speech when two radio guys were jailed for making a poll where people had to call in and decide if they would rather re-elect Hipolito Mejia as president or the Devil, and of course, the Devil won.

I really doubt they would do anything different.

They really need to change their leadership. And this is not to say that the entire PRD is not that good, because there are many PRD members that truly have the interest of the country above all else. Milagros Ortiz Bosch is one of them and she's the only one I respect from the upper levels that party. If more of them were like her, the PRD would had been a viable competition worth giving another chance in power. The problem is that except for Milagros Ortiz Bosch, all the other people who are capable of making the PRD a team worth giving another chance are not in the upper levels of the party.

Change the top level people and then we'll see.

-NALs

[ExtremeR]

Originally Posted by NALs

I'm not so sure. Many projects that were started under the first PLD years were paralyzed and remained paralyzed during the 2000-2004 PRD rule. Many were finished once the PLD was back in power. Everything the PLD originally put in place in terms of legislation that was pro-development (including amending the constitution to eliminate re-election) was undone under PRD. And then there was a crisis. Let's not forget the defacto elimination of Free Speech when two radio guys were jailed for making a poll where people had to call in and decide if they would rather re-elect Hipolito Mejia as president or the Devil, and of course, the Devil won.

I really doubt they would do anything different.

They really need to change their leadership. And this is not to say that the entire PRD is not that good, because there are many PRD members that truly have the interest of the country above all else. Milagros Ortiz Bosch is one of them and she's the only one I respect from the upper levels that party. If more of them were like her, the PRD would had been a viable competition worth giving another chance in power. The problem is that except for Milagros Ortiz Bosch, all the other people who are capable of making the PRD a team worth giving another chance are not in the upper levels of the party.

Change the top level people and then we'll see.

-NALs

Emmanuel Esquea Guerrero, Virgilio Bello Rosa, to mention 2.

[A.Hidalgo]

A bunch of cobardes. A plebiscite is in order, and let the people vote on this very important issue of term limits. This agreement will only solidify caudillismo, which seems to be in the dna of LA politicians. This backroom agreement stinks to high heaven and will allow these same guys to get elected, take a brake and come back every other election cycle. Sad.

[lafiera]

PRD , PLD , PRSC all are the same. It is times for a new political ordern in the Dominican Republic. Only a REVOLUCION IS THE WAY.

ES JARTO QUE ESTAMOS. PATRIA O MUERTE

[J D Sauser]

In my opinion, in this country policies are not so influenced by parties as they are by their lead figure. And so is also the outcome of elections.
The PRD could have "won"... there was nothing standing in their way a year ago, if they had the right lead figure... obviously MVM was not that figure.
Parities here, are nothing but "fan clubs" advised to applaud "plepla"-addresses given by the lead figure and to tell everybody that "they" will win any which way... all an occasional "fria" or a plastic hose filled with a mix of fat and flour (inadequately labeled a salami).

All three parties, the PRSC, PRD AND the PLD will now have to start generating new lead figures... preferably some which are ALIFE (not Bosch, Balaguer or Pena Gomez) which are able to come up with plans which can be made believable to the majority of voters and which are not already knee deep in money loundring and other obvious abuse of power investigations.

... J-D.

[TimH]

It is true that the PRD-government under Hipolito started the downward spiral but the actual government is continuing the destruction of society: More crime, more poverty, less tourism, the ecological agenda is a joke, same or worse corruption but for a higher price...you name it. Nothing really important this government archieved to ease the quality of life of the population. The Metro is not edible.

In 2004 I was all for a government change. In 2008 I was wiser and hoped for a change prefering MVM over Leonel for the simple reason: less governmentcontrol equals less damage. People offended me for this opinion. Where are we now ? If you are not a politician or a druglord life is getting worse every day.
Sometimes I really wonder how stupid foreigners can be eating up all these lies spilled by the LF government.

[ExtremeR]

Originally Posted by TimH

It is true that the PRD-government under Hipolito started the downward spiral but the actual government is continuing the destruction of society: More crime, more poverty, less tourism, the ecological agenda is a joke, same or worse corruption but for a higher price...you name it. Nothing really important this government archieved to ease the quality of life of the population. The Metro is not edible.

In 2004 I was all for a government change. In 2008 I was wiser and hoped for a change prefering MVM over Leonel for the simple reason: less governmentcontrol equals less damage. People offended me for this opinion. Where are we now ? If you are not a politician or a druglord life is getting worse every day.
Sometimes I really wonder how stupid foreigners can be eating up all these lies spilled by the LF government.

Where you are now you ask?? you are in a country that with the current international crisis, the dollar hasn't fallen to the 40's, inflation is one digit since 2005, growth is positive for more than 8.0% since 2005 (this year will be less due to the crisis), the current administration is the one who has captured the most drug in transit here in the DR. So with the PRD we would be now with the dollar at 70 x 1, inflation rate at 30%, growth at -5%, complete chaos on the streets and drug dealers being owners of the country, remember the grass is always greener on the other side. Stop complaining and start being thankful that this county is in a stable condition taking into consideration the external factors.