Amnesty for illegal foreigners?

[Lambada]

As you probably all know there's a big conference going on today & tomorrow, 25 countries represented, on the subject of regularising migration policy. And the President's proposal with regard to those foreigners who have been here illegally 10 years and more is:

“que todo extranjero que pueda comprobar una permanencia de diez años o más en el país al momento de aprobarse la nueva Constitución tendrá el derecho de optar por una residencia permanente y de que se le dote de la documentación con una vigencia de cuatro años. En tanto los que tengan menos de diez años, pero más de cinco años, podrán optar por una residencia temporal y documentación válida por dos años”.
Desde Dominicana

So those here illegally 10+ years will be able to opt for permanent residency which lasts 4 years, those here 5+ years can opt for temporary residency which lasts 2 years. Meanwhile, foreigners here legally still need to renew permanent residency every 2 years.

Something a little strange about that?

[donP]

Originally Posted by Lambada

Something a little strange about that?

No, typical.
Remember, when they introduced DST?

[NALs]

Originally Posted by Lambada

As you probably all know there's a big conference going on today & tomorrow, 25 countries represented, on the subject of regularising migration policy. And the President's proposal with regard to those foreigners who have been here illegally 10 years and more is:

“que todo extranjero que pueda comprobar una permanencia de diez años o más en el país al momento de aprobarse la nueva Constitución tendrá el derecho de optar por una residencia permanente y de que se le dote de la documentación con una vigencia de cuatro años. En tanto los que tengan menos de diez años, pero más de cinco años, podrán optar por una residencia temporal y documentación válida por dos años”.
Desde Dominicana

So those here illegally 10+ years will be able to opt for permanent residency which lasts 4 years, those here 5+ years can opt for temporary residency which lasts 2 years. Meanwhile, foreigners here legally still need to renew permanent residency every 2 years.

Something a little strange about that?

When one considers that Leonel has been the most pro-Haitian president the DR has had (when he was in Spain he even suggested that Haiti should be allowed in the Iberoamérica community - which doesn't make sense since Iberoamérica is composed of Portugal and Spain and their former colonies in the Americas), its not strange at all.

-NALs

[BushBaby]

Originally Posted by NALs

When one considers that Leonel has been the most pro-Haitian president the DR has had (when he was in Spain he even suggested that Haiti should be allowed in the Iberoamérica community - which doesn't make sense since Iberoamérica is composed of Portugal and Spain and their former colonies in the Americas), its not strange at all.

-NALs

NALs
This is NOT about Haitians, Portuguese &/or Spaniards alone ............ this is about ALL foreigners who have come to this country to live. PLEASE don't get on your soap box on this thread but instead try to see the inaccuracies in the Presidents statement/suggestions!

LEGAL immigrants have to renew their status every 2 years - The President is advocating that those who have been here more than 10 year ILLEGALLY will have a residency that lasts FOUR years, i.e. they get a bonus/reward for having been illegal .............. (Hmmm, sounds about right for this Government. Legal = we screw you, illegal = you get rewarded!!) ~ Grahame.

[Lambada]

For information, the link I put up earlier will still be valid in future, but the article won't be at top of page any longer, because new stuff will be posted. The heading you are looking for is: El Código Fernández de Migración o de status migratorio, here
Desde Dominicana

Yes NALS we know this is supposed to solve the 'Haitian problem' but it does say 'todo extranjero' and I guess no-one told the President there's a bunch of legal foreigners here who are currently obliged to renew their residency every 2 years. Just like no-one told him what IberoAmerican means?

[mountainannie]

Leonel know what IberoAmerican means. He stated that the country had first been entirely Spanish before the western third was transferred to France.

So you have to renew your PERMANENT residency every two years?

AND pay income tax on all foreign and domestic income that is not a pension or social security?

Remind me again of the advantages of having residency?

[windeguy]

In the OP, granting differential and preferential treatment for illegal aliens versus those who are here legally regarding residency renewal time intervals is an example of a ridiculous thought process. I thought he was more intelligent than that.

I expect his reasoning is so that the government will at least collect some money periodically from those currently not paying anything to live here.

[MikeFisher]

yeap,
doesn't sound anything like fair treatment of those who do since the beginning their paperwork, pay their taxes aso the legal way,
while the illegals get some bonuses rewarded for not paying anything since over 10 years, for giving a shi$$ on existing laws or such.

so what they wanna do then with the ones who are here illegally less than 5 years? a big deep sweep by immigrations and send 'em back home while the 5+years illegals get some sweeties?

how much $$$ the illegal Aliens have to pay to get their "rewarded" 4 years permanent residency?
don't tell me they will get that for free, that would be the big joke of the century, the costs for such need at least to be higher than the costs of getting a permanent residency legally(including costs for doing legally first a temporary one, then the permanent one, then renewing that one after 2 years aso til we reach the 4 years time period).

next point:
what are the requirements for a over 10 years illegal to proof that he is since over 10 years permanently here in the country?
a "purchased" paper from the landlord where he rented his room since over a decade illegally???

what about illegal Aliens here since over a decade but within that last decade they travelled once or twice aso out of the country?

and of course the Haitian immigrations problem is the big factor on that theme,
as a matter of fact they run the by far biggest part of foreigner's communities in the country, so maybe such stupid law makes just the simple sense that the real ones in POWER get nearby unlimited cheap labour slaves from one moment to an other, doesn't matter how many natives are on the streets looking for a job.

how to proof if a illegal Haitian immigrant is here permanently since over a decade???

ha ha ha ha ha

i really look forward to that brainstorming genius system which will proof such.
the guys caught illegally here and sent back to Haiti often show up over here with a new fake name a week later.
many/most of those sugarcane workers (labourers for the POWERS), construction workers aso do not have any legal papers from their homecountry, they crossed the border illegally without a stamp in their anyways not existing passport, so automatically everybody of 'em who is on dominican soil at the moment such law passes get's a 4 years permanent residency, no need to bother with a 2nd option for 5+ years illegals, there will be nobody applying for that one, lol.

i bet there will be even 9 years ole in the line claiming they are here since over 10 years illegally.

if the word of such get's out crossing our border to the west we should get prepared for an Invasion,
b/'c darn sure everybody who hear's some rumors about such Paradise welcome over here will be on the road towards the golden east right away.
they will storm that border soon.

overall,
sounds like a very bad joke to me.
sure i know they do not mean it as a joke,
they are up to something,
and that something sounds like a very bad joke to me.

Mike

[NALs]

Originally Posted by BushBaby

NALs
This is NOT about Haitians, Portuguese &/or Spaniards alone ............ this is about ALL foreigners who have come to this country to live. PLEASE don't get on your soap box on this thread but instead try to see the inaccuracies in the Presidents statement/suggestions!

Okay... considering that anytime any official speaks of foreigners they are referring to an overwhelmingly Haitian population, it simply makes sense to interpret what he said as having the issue of Haitian migrants in mind. Any other foreigners might just be an afterthought.

To who will this affect more? Haitian migrants or non-Haitian migrants? Hmmm.... tough one.

-NALs

[cobraboy]

Originally Posted by NALs

Okay... considering that anytime any official speaks of foreigners they are referring to an overwhelmingly Haitian population, it simply makes sense to interpret what he said as having the issue of Haitian migrants in mind. Any other foreigners might just be an afterthought.

To who will this affect more? Haitian migrants or non-Haitian migrants? Hmmm.... tough one.

-NALs

Interesting you mention that.

I was at a meeting recently where some folks started ranting about immigrants, how they're taking over, etc.. I just sat there quietly uncomfortable. At some point the folks discussing immigrants got quiet, and said to me, "Not you, we mean the Haitiano's..."