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Old 07-24-2009, 07:18 PM
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President Leonel Fernandez and government officials yesterday provided explanations about the large bureaucracy and multiple laws that are already in effect to fight government corruption. President Leonel Fernandez convened with media directors at the Presidential Palace yesterday and argued that government employees are neither protected nor privileged. He acknowledged that the public is irritated after reports of corruption have been amply aired in the media. But during the meeting he described corruption that has been detected in government as "minor things."
Speaking to a group of media directors, President Leonel Fernandez admitted that there have been "weaknesses" in the administrative handlings of his government, but said that this had taken place in decentralized government departments. He said he did not protect government officials and that his only loyalty was to the homeland.
Fernandez said that he was confident that there were no corrupt officials in his government. "I trust that they are not committing acts of corruption."

no acts of corruption...give me a break!!!!!!
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:54 PM
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You should be grateful that you were allowed to read that...

http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/loc...orruption-talk

Why should media owners have their journalists write about corruption, huh?

Fillet stuffed with spinach, good wine, goat cheese, etc. are always good for investigative journalists.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:38 PM
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LOL!

I read that.

Then reread it.

Funny stuff.
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:59 AM
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Just of the hell of it , here's the rest of the article:
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He added that there was a lack of internal control mechanisms or auditors in the decentralized government departments, and that it is possible for government officials to appoint their relatives, spend too much, and that this unsupervised practice can lead to the perception that there is corruption in government.

"In the centralized part of government, there is more control, today we are publishing the tenders, and no-bid contracts are not being handed out", he told the journalists.

Fernandez says that many of the problems in the decentralized institutions are to do with management of funds, human resources, misuse of cellular phones and the purchase of expensive vehicles.

But he repeatedly downplayed the situation by saying they were no "hyper" cases of corruption. "I think we should also stop [these acts of corruption] because the public is unhappy with this phenomenon and we believe that our duty and obligation is to fight to control that," said the President.

Fernandez said that no alleged corruption case that has dominated the news has been about the misuse of public funds, fraud or accepting bribes and added that he is willing to fire any government official who is charged with proven corruption. He added that any government employee who doesn't act honestly could not be considered his friend or a good employee.

He said his government is applying Law 10-07 on the national system of internal controls and the Controller General of the Republic and Law 449-06 on government procurement.

He said the authorities are working on procedures to get rid of people who hold down two jobs or more in government.

"We are not satisfied with what we have, we are aware that we have the political will to face corruption. We have had many meetings to investigate new standards to strengthen the controls, we will give more dynamism to the ethics commission, and more public information through the Internet", said the head of state.

He announced a hotline for people to make complaints and denounce corruption. He also announced that he would promote a transparency pact with the private sector.

During the meeting, Presidency Secretary Cesar Pina Toribio reported on the work of the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission. Simon Lizardo, speaking for the General Controller's office, said that 67 centralized government institutions have auditing departments, and come August there will be units at 176 decentralized institutions nationwide.

Eric Hazim, in charge of purchasing and procurement for the government, said that 3,000 government officials are trained in handling procurement.
Hotoniel Bonilla, director of the Department for the Persecution of Corruption (DPCA) said that prosecutors have been trained, and that his department is acquiring new technologies. Bonilla acknowledged that only a few minor corruption cases have been penalized.

Deputy national treasurer Maria Felisa Gutierrez said that internal government controls in place in centralized departments are advancing to reach out to decentralized institutions.
And here is a original article in Spanish in Diario Digital.

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Old 07-25-2009, 09:52 AM
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Just of the hell of it , here's the rest of the article:


And here is a original article in Spanish in Diario Digital.

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Whats your point Nal's? i don't understand, all the way through the article, it just says the same thing, decentralized agency's have no oversight, and they are mismanaging money, people, buying expensive cars but its no big deal. Give me a break it is corruption. No matter what kind of candy you coat it with.
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:57 AM
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Simply put it is OK for government officials to purchase expensive Jeepetas and to hire as many relatives as they like. This is not corruption but only leads to the "public perception" of corruption and is therefor OK.

Give me a break. We are dealing with some serious collusion and delusion here.
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Old 07-25-2009, 01:46 PM
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Read today that if any corrupt officials are found, that they will be fired. wow what a punishment, someone embezzles hundreds of thousands of pesos or even millions, and their punishment is they dont have to "work" no more.

Is it any wonder why everyone wants to be in Gov. here? crime does pay here, and then your rewarded for it too.

I say, throw their Butts in jail, freeze assets and possessions, sentence is reduced in relation to how much of what they stole is return to the state. of course this won't happen anytime soon.
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Old 07-25-2009, 01:56 PM
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How many of the non-centralized sectors that are involved in this acknowledged corruption is PLD?
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Old 07-25-2009, 01:59 PM
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Why doesn't he start with the firing of about 200 ministers and 400 generals?
What he saying is a huge BS. He even pardoned of those who where involved in the biggest bank fraud case.
Corruption is part of the culture here in any level. It has been and will be.
Can they get rid of it? Sure! But they won't.
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Old 07-26-2009, 02:48 AM
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Zee/TheHun,
agree on that, that's the problem point,
what we have here in the country is the form of "clientelism"(excuse my sp? please).
corruption???
what the heck you guys are talking about??
at the moment a german 'tank' leaves factory towards Iran/Iraq/India/Pakistan/South Africa/Israel/China
you can bet your Granny's virginity on the matter of fact that a good number of "persons in charge" can be sure about some 'sweeties' in their near future.
the same for US gubmin members when they agree to the 'tomahawk producers' to fire a bit of 'budget producing' necessaries on some far away schools,
and the same game is in play when a LA Banana Republic kicks the a$$ of it's criminal president at a moment(Yes, at a moment, b/c the way really wouldn't have mattered at an other timing) of need and the "big 'hood" just does nothing.
is that "corruption"??
if that is what ya mean you could have explained it to me more easy by mentioning that you are talking just about simple every day poilitics all around the globe.
name me one country where such is on it's "historical level" not the case.
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