Impedimento de Salida - what is that?

anonymous1960 · #1 07-07-2004, 02:22 PM

Hi all,

I was curious as to what is an "impedimento de salida". How difficult is to get struck by one? When does that happen? Does it happen often? What happens to one that has an "impedimento de salida" and tries to board a plane? How do you get rid of it?

Also, is there such a thing as a "impedimento de entrada"?

Tony C · #2 07-08-2004, 02:11 AM

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Hi all,

I was curious as to what is an "impedimento de salida".

Basically it is a legal block to leaving the Country

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How difficult is to get struck by one?

If it is for a civil action not difficult at all. File some papers.

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When does that happen?

when you least expect it

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Does it happen often?

Not really unless you got a Dominican with money ****ed off at you

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What happens to one that has an "impedimento de salida" and tries to board a plane?

You don't get on. Your stopped at Immigration

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How do you get rid of it?

Like any other problem in the DR $$$$$

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Also, is there such a thing as a "impedimento de entrada"?
OF course! Do you know of any country that would let anybody in?

anonymous1960 · #3 07-08-2004, 01:02 PM

Tony,

thank you so much for cutting through the junk and going to the point.

Let's say I owe some money to a Dominican with money, and I leave DR, and I will be back in a year, and he finds out I am gone. He also knows I don't own anything in the country (real estate etc.), am not married to a Dominican etc.

Say he files for an "impedimento de salida" in the hope of getting me when I'm back and leave again. I haven't seen any computers at the airport. How do they enforce the impedimento or anything else? Big paper list?

Now let's say I come back, and I leave the country again, and they catch me at the airport with the impedimento. Will they arrest me? Because if not, I can just cross through Haiti ( I don't see "los rasos" of Dajabon checking my name on a computer) and leave from Port-au-Prince. Or maybe I'll just let the impedimento expire...How long does it take?

All of this is hypothetical of course...

cheers

Lambada · #4 07-08-2004, 01:50 PM

Having explored the possibility of putting an impediment on someone, I can tell you this system is NOT foolproof. I was told that an impediment issued in Puerto Plata for example, would hold good for P.P. airport, but not for Punta Cana airport. I read this as a message to pay more money to get the impediment more country wide! You need to have someone "follow" your quarry & alert emigration at the point of departure. A "pushy" lawyer helps, also.
So, "hypothetically" if you notice you are being followed whilst you are in the DR, they could have the steps in place. If not, probably no problem. Buy 2 refundable tickets, different airports, let one departure date, place, time get into the public domain. Keep VERY quiet about the other one (the one you will actually use) & remember not to use the same credit card for both purchases.

Forbeca · #5 07-08-2004, 01:58 PM

extent of it. I guess the answer lies on who is placing the impediment. If he/she is real ****ed off, it w/b foolproof. If they just want to scare someone off, then they w/ just mess with the person for awhile.

[QUOTE=Lambada]Having explored the possibility of putting an impediment on someone, I can tell you this system is NOT foolproof. I was told that an impediment issued in Puerto Plata for example, would hold good for P.P. airport, but not for Punta Cana airport. I read this as a message to pay more money to get the impediment more country wide!

anonymous1960 · #6 07-08-2004, 02:07 PM

Thanks for the excellent advice

chuckuindy · #7 07-08-2004, 02:12 PM

On my last trip to the DR, June 11 to 22, my US passport was scanned using some new electronic device as I exited the country. This was a first for me in all of my trips to the DR. By the way this was at LRM.

I am not sure what information is available to DR customs and immigration from this source.
Charlie

ricktoronto · #8 07-08-2004, 08:52 PM

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On my last trip to the DR, June 11 to 22, my US passport was scanned using some new electronic device as I exited the country. This was a first for me in all of my trips to the DR.

They have the same thing at SDQ which works about 1/10 of the time and serves mainly, like the one at arrivals to mangle the edge of your passport. I did notice the high tech system though of about 50 letter sized paper sheets of names and passport/cedula #'s of people blocked from leaving ( with notes like refer to the robbery or homicide dep't of the SD PN) which the migracion lady seemed to consult about 0% of the time.

And with the sieve like border at Haiti and I bet the PR ferry system departure point, I bet leaving would not be impossible if you had to bail.

Adrian Bye · #9 07-08-2004, 09:06 PM

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Let's say I owe some money to a Dominican with money, and I leave DR, and I will be back in a year, and he finds out I am gone. He also knows I don't own anything in the country (real estate etc.), am not married to a Dominican etc.

Why don't you pay the money back? Then you wouldn't have to post "hypothetical" questions on a message board anonymously. You could ask open questions in your real name.

It sounds to me like you deserve to be in jail.

Tordok · #10 07-08-2004, 09:53 PM

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Hi all,
Also, is there such a thing as a "impedimento de entrada"?

As funny as it may sound, "impedimento de entrada" also does exist. Say, your name may be the same or even just have a similar spelling to that of an Interpol fugitive (a drug dealer, a white-collar criminal on the lam, or an Islam-terrorist) and POW! you may be denied entry into the country.

Like everything else in the DR bureucracy, the entry and exit impediments are frequently abused by people who $imply can put you on those lists.
Technically, it is supposed to be used against people who may have unresolved matters with the local court system (civil or criminal).

I once arrived on SDQ with an American medical student friend who happened to have the same name of a Colombian narco (as we later found out). It took a few hours to clear things up and let him thru, even with proper identification and only after me having to make some phone calls to the right "enllaves".

- Tordok