Deportation from US

[Dessie]

Since this is an extremely touchy topic and one that most people do not want to answer based on its nature I hesitate in asking once again.

My fiance's brother got into a bit of trouble (carrying a larger amount of a controlled substance) at a younger age and was one of the "guinea pigs" for a new law that forced anyone who was not a naturalized citizen to accept voluntary deportation rather than forced mandatory deportation. Since this experience this law was not successful and is no longer in place. (I am a paralegal in NYC and have done so much research just to make sure of this). Since then (approx 1990) he has resided in the DR. He has an interest in returning to the US but is very hesitant since he has never heard of anyone that was deported, voluntarily or not, to the DR from the US being allowed back into the US with the option of returning with a possibility of obtaining citizenship.

Does anyone know of anyone who was deported to the DR from the US that successfully returned to the US with the option of being able to apply for citizenship?

[ricktoronto]

Was he convicted of possession for the purpose of trafficking or just deported? If so, regardless of the method of the deportation I'd think the US won't grant even a visitors visa since he's a convicted felon/drug trafficker. I would have about zero sympathy if they said no.

[Rocky]

Originally Posted by ricktoronto

Was he convicted of possession for the purpose of trafficking or just deported? If so, regardless of the method of the deportation I'd think the US won't grant even a visitors visa since he's a convicted felon/drug trafficker. I would have about zero sympathy if they said no.

Not to mention that it's a question that needs to be addressed from the American side and not the DR.
I'm sure the DR is not trying to keep him here and if you have paralegal experience, you should know that it's an issue that has to be addressed by the American authorities.
Phone US immigration and ask them.
End of story.

[miguel]

Originally Posted by Dessie

My fiance's brother got into a bit of trouble (carrying a larger amount of a controlled substance) at a younger age and was one of the "guinea pigs" for a new law that forced anyone who was not a naturalized citizen to accept voluntary deportation rather than forced mandatory deportation. Since this experience this law was not successful and is no longer in place. (I am a paralegal in NYC and have done so much research just to make sure of this). Since then (approx 1990) he has resided in the DR. He has an interest in returning to the US but is very hesitant since he has never heard of anyone that was deported, voluntarily or not, to the DR from the US being allowed back into the US with the option of returning with a possibility of obtaining citizenship.

Does anyone know of anyone who was deported to the DR from the US that successfully returned to the US with the option of being able to apply for citizenship?

There is no way in hell the he will be allowed back into the US, even if it was voluntarily. Now, one HAVE to do their time in prison and THEN they WILL deport you. A friend of mine in Boston went to see a politician because his brother was going to be deported because his brother was caught with drugs but, as it's always the case, he was the "not guilty one " or the "mule" of the "being at the wrong place at the wrong time", to see if the politician could do something and the politico told my friend: "friend, forget about it, now the US government says that they rather have him mess up his own country and not ours". IMHO, that law should have been imposed 40 years ago!!!!

[Dessie]

Originally Posted by miguel

There is no way in hell the he will be allowed back into the US, even if it was voluntarily. Now, one HAVE to do their time in prison and THEN they WILL deport you. A friend of mine in Boston went to see a politician because his brother was going to be deported because his brother was caught with drugs but, as it's always the case, he was the "not guilty one " or the "mule" of the "being at the wrong place at the wrong time", to see if the politician could do something and the politico told my friend: "friend, forget about it, now the US government says that they rather have him mess up his own country and not ours". IMHO, that law should have been imposed 40 years ago!!!!

So be it then. The man will have to accept the life he has tried to build back in the DR and leave the US alone. It's not exactly like a paradise all in of itself at times either so oh well. I keep trying to tell him that NYC isnt exactly all its cracked up to be anymore. I have 2 college degrees and was out of work for almost 8 months and he thinks he will be oh so successful if he comes back here. YAWN!! As long as he can still visit for a few weeks, etc. he should be happy with that. So now I just have to help (family-to-be duty) him and his/my family find out about him coming back for visits. This should be interesting. Thanks for the feedback though I appreciate it.

[Dessie]

Originally Posted by ricktoronto

Was he convicted of possession for the purpose of trafficking or just deported? If so, regardless of the method of the deportation I'd think the US won't grant even a visitors visa since he's a convicted felon/drug trafficker. I would have about zero sympathy if they said no.

He was caught with drugs but not enough to be accused of "intent to distribute" He did his measly six months in jail and all and when he was on parole the INS came around and decided to give him this BS about voluntary deportation with their word that in 7 years he would be allowed to return. Since then he hasnt even tried to return. However, I have read the court files and arrest records on him (paralegal in NYC I was able to review what I could) and what he said wasnt false he was in possession only. So the long and the short of it is that because he was caught at a time when they were "testing" this new idea, he got the shaft.

[miguel]

Originally Posted by Dessie

So be it then. The man will have to accept the life he has tried to build back in the DR and leave the US alone. It's not exactly like a paradise all in of itself at times either so oh well. I keep trying to tell him that NYC isnt exactly all its cracked up to be anymore. I have 2 college degrees and was out of work for almost 8 months and he thinks he will be oh so successful if he comes back here. YAWN!! As long as he can still visit for a few weeks, etc. he should be happy with that. So now I just have to help (family-to-be duty) him and his/my family find out about him coming back for visits. This should be interesting. Thanks for the feedback though I appreciate it.

Ok, if he was deported, he will NEVER, EVERRRRR be able to get back into the US legally, not for a week and not for 1 second. Maybe someone knows something that I don't know. My friend's brother lived in Boston for over 35 years and worked 30 of those years and paid his taxes and they did not cared about that, when he got caught, he went to prison and then deported, as simple as that. Now ask him this simple question: If he was a country and someone comes and try to mess up that country's youth, culture and population, doing something illegal, for a quick buck, would he let those people come back to the same country after they were deported. And please, spare us the "that was a long time ago and he has changed", why would the government take another chance?. I am not trying to be rude but he had his chance and he blew it by doing something that he was not supposed to be doing. By the way, I feel this way even if a relative of mine was caught doing the same thing. Go back to your country and mess it up, whishever that country may be.
By the way, now they are not asking too many questions, you get caught and they do not wait for you to go on parole, they go to the prison and grab you before you had the time to put a foot out of it and then they take you to the Immigration and Naturalization's jail to wait for a available plane out.

[simpson Homer]

It's a big shame to try to bring back that delincuent! he better stay where he is, why? because for people like him, is that the USA make a lot of restriction to Dominicans.

USA should not allow back that criminal. for what? I doubt he get a Visa to US or to other country after been convicted for Traficante.

[Dessie]

Originally Posted by simpson Homer

It's a big shame to try to bring back that delincuent! he better stay where he is, why? because for people like him, is that the USA make a lot of restriction to Dominicans.

USA should not allow back that criminal. for what? I doubt he get a Visa to US or to other country after been convicted for Traficante.

So here is a great question for you....Did I ask for your opinion or did I ask for information? I don't believe I asked for your opinion on what you think of this person. I think I was asking if anyone had ever heard of anyone being able to return to the US. In addition, I can only say that I wish the people that are born in the united states were able to be sent elsewhere for thier b/s crimes. But thanks for your "opinion" and proof that I couldn't even ask a simple question without having to hear crap.

[Dessie]

Originally Posted by miguel

Ok, if he was deported, he will NEVER, EVERRRRR be able to get back into the US legally, not for a week and not for 1 second. Maybe someone knows something that I don't know. My friend's brother lived in Boston for over 35 years and worked 30 of those years and paid his taxes and they did not cared about that, when he got caught, he went to prison and then deported, as simple as that. Now ask him this simple question: If he was a country and someone comes and try to mess up that country's youth, culture and population, doing something illegal, for a quick buck, would he let those people come back to the same country after they were deported. And please, spare us the "that was a long time ago and he has changed", why would the government take another chance?. I am not trying to be rude but he had his chance and he blew it by doing something that he was not supposed to be doing. By the way, I feel this way even if a relative of mine was caught doing the same thing. Go back to your country and mess it up, whishever that country may be.
By the way, now they are not asking too many questions, you get caught and they do not wait for you to go on parole, they go to the prison and grab you before you had the time to put a foot out of it and then they take you to the Immigration and Naturalization's jail to wait for a available plane out.

I ask for information not opinion. I do agree that anyone that tries to DEAL drugs should be punished. Someone that smokes a little here and there should not be punished permanently.

By the way just so you know the punishment is more severe than many may think. This man lost his wife, all his family is in the US. HIs mother, brothers sisters and three children. All of which he missed while they grew up without him. So for once here is an even better question, if you were caught with a blunt in your pocket and arrested and then deported away from your family children wife and friends and left with no way of seeing them grow up would you still be so quick to judge? Its an interesting question if you think about it.