Looking for some honest answers

[La Mariposa]

Originally Posted by happy traveller

It would be nice if i could afford to go every year.

The reason why your friend didn't put him on the certificate is the same reason why i didn't, plus at the time, the father decided to not keep in contact with me, as i tried many times to get ahold of him.

As for the father. I will make sure everything is good between us and maybe even get him to send me a letter stating that i have full custody and guardianship.
I just wanted to know the legalities.

Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments.

Why would you ask for such letter if the father is not on the birth certificate ?? Isn't it because you have doubts about what the father can do ??

I hope you won't send him a letter.

[LaTeacher]

the point is that ADN is DNA in Spanish, not just the DR.
get it?
it's not some country specific word. it's not a domincan idiom. it's spanish.

i just don't want people to get confused when they go to another country that speaks spanish and think that DNA is only ADN in the DR.

and. perhaps you should pay more attention. THERE IS NO FATHER ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE so everything you have said is NULL AND VOID. no father, no problems.

[BushBaby]

Originally Posted by LaTeacher

the point is that ADN is DNA in Spanish, not just the DR.
get it?
it's not some country specific word. it's not a domincan idiom. it's spanish.

i just don't want people to get confused when they go to another country that speaks spanish and think that DNA is only ADN in the DR.

and. perhaps you should pay more attention. THERE IS NO FATHER ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE so everything you have said is NULL AND VOID. no father, no problems.

Ahh The Imaculate Conception!!
I don't think the Dominican Judiciary would buy that possibility somehow!

La Teacher, PLEASE cool your fevered brow a while. You seemed to get far too uptight far too quickly & really it was not necessary - IMHO!

Whereas a LOT of what you say might well be true for MOST countries, you have to remember we are talking the DR here. In the DR you need to have ALL your balls in place & ALL the 'I's dotted & 'T's crossed to even stand a fighting chance with the legal system here. We see regularly that the judicial system works in wonderous ways ........... when money crosses the palms of unscrupulous judges. IF the Father of the child were to be approached by a 'scum bag' lawyer & say "Do you want some money because I can get you loads by stopping the Mother of your child taking her back to The States/Canada" don't you think there is a possibility that the said Father would consider this? He wouldn't have to put any money up as the lawyer would take his BIG cut from the BIG PAYOUT at the end - extortion!! gre:

The LEAST the Mother could expect (if this scenario were to come about) is another 3 or 4 months in the DR with the child because they would not be permitted to leave (with or WITHOUT there being the name of the Father on the American/Canadian passport!!). gre:

My understanding is that Notlurking was advocating prudence, DAMAGE CONTROL. Get ALL the proof positive IN PLACE before travelling to make holding the child here unnecessarily difficult to achieve by unscrupulous lawyers & judges who are happy for the 'Bonus check' to arrive! Seems sensible advice to me! ~ Grahame

[NotLurking]

Originally Posted by LaTeacher

the point is that ADN is DNA in Spanish, not just the DR.
get it?
it's not some country specific word. it's not a domincan idiom. it's spanish.

i just don't want people to get confused when they go to another country that speaks spanish and think that DNA is only ADN in the DR.

and. perhaps you should pay more attention. THERE IS NO FATHER ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE so everything you have said is NULL AND VOID. no father, no problems.

Just because a father is not listed on the official birth record does not mean that he does not have legal recourse or does not exist. You are free to believe what you want. But what you believe and what the law actually is could, and in this case IS, two different things.

I'll leave you with the following qoute and links for your enjoyment:

A June 2003 decision of the Supreme Court of Canada found that fathers should have a say in their children's names, contrary to the provisions of the Vital Statistics Act in force at the time. This decision also affects the right of unacknowledged fathers to be listed on their children's birth certificates. On 4 June 2004, the act was amended to comply with the court's decision, and s. 4.1 now allows the courts of British Columbia to make an order changing a child's surname within an order delaring the man to be the child's father.

Source: JP Boyd's BC Family Law Resource: Other Family Law Issues

And the actual Canadian Supreme Court decision:
Supreme Court of Canada - Decisions - Trociuk v. British Columbia (Attorney General)

Do you get it? Stop misinforming.

According to the Supreme Court of Canada, "unacknowledged fathers have a right to be listed on their children's birth certificates". If you didn't know fathers have rights both here in DR and abroad.

NotLurking

[bob saunders]

Originally Posted by NotLurking

Just because a father is not listed on the official birth record does not mean that he does not have legal recourse or does not exist. You are free to believe what you want. But what you believe and what the law actually is could, and in this case IS, two different things.

I'll leave you with the following qoute and links for your enjoyment:

Source: JP Boyd's BC Family Law Resource: Other Family Law Issues

And the actual Canadian Supreme Court decision:
Supreme Court of Canada - Decisions - Trociuk v. British Columbia (Attorney General)

Do you get it? Stop misinforming.

According to the Supreme Court of Canada, "unacknowledged fathers have a right to be listed on their children's birth certificates". If you didn't know fathers have rights both here in DR and abroad.

NotLurking

Only if they are Canadians

[montreal]

Originally Posted by NotLurking

Just because a father is not listed on the official birth record does not mean that he does not have legal recourse or does not exist. You are free to believe what you want. But what you believe and what the law actually is could, and in this case IS, two different things.

I'll leave you with the following qoute and links for your enjoyment:

Source: JP Boyd's BC Family Law Resource: Other Family Law Issues

And the actual Canadian Supreme Court decision:
Supreme Court of Canada - Decisions - Trociuk v. British Columbia (Attorney General)

Do you get it? Stop misinforming.

According to the Supreme Court of Canada, "unacknowledged fathers have a right to be listed on their children's birth certificates". If you didn't know fathers have rights both here in DR and abroad.

NotLurking

Decisions made in BC should be null and void.........you are aware of how much weed they smoke??? jajaja

[La Mariposa]

Originally Posted by LaTeacher

the point is that ADN is DNA in Spanish, not just the DR.
get it?
it's not some country specific word. it's not a domincan idiom. it's spanish.

i just don't want people to get confused when they go to another country that speaks spanish and think that DNA is only ADN in the DR.

and. perhaps you should pay more attention. THERE IS NO FATHER ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE so everything you have said is NULL AND VOID. no father, no problems.

Dont be so sure

[La Mariposa]

Originally Posted by bob saunders

Only if they are Canadians

You dont need to be Canadian to file for paternity in Canada

[NotLurking]

Originally Posted by bob saunders

Only if they are Canadians

bob why post something like this? Do you realize what you are saying? In essence, you are saying that ONLY Canadians have rights in Canada under the law and ALL foreigners (non-Canadians) in Canada have NO rights under Canadian LAW.

For goodness sake man read the Canadian Constitution!

Specifically read:
Part 1 CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
Section 15 Equality Rights
subsections 1 and 2:

(1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

This is so beautiful it is worth repeating!!!

(1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

Source: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/index.html

NotLurking

[bob saunders]

Originally Posted by NotLurking

bob why post something like this? Do you realize what you are saying? In essence, you are saying that ONLY Canadians have rights in Canada under the law and ALL foreigners (non-Canadians) in Canada have NO rights under Canadian LAW

NotLurking

A Dominican living in the Dominican Republic has no rights in Canada unless he is in Canada, and because he hasn't paid child support or from the sounds of it made any attempt to see his child he would be in for a world of hurt under the Canadian Justice system. Deadbeat dads are heavily punished in Canada.