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Old 11-12-2008, 10:20 AM
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I just read about the new Biometric ID card for foreigners. Does anyone know how this will work?

Questions that come to mind:

1) Where will the cards be issued? (Hopefully not requiring another trip to Santo Domingo)

2) How much will it cost?

3) How often will the expire?

4) Will the Biometric ID replace the Cedula or Residency card or be an additional card we need to carry? (Hopefully they can figure out a way for it to replace the Residency card.)
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As with most things they make the announcement then figure out how to do it....... I too am waiting for more information.
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I would forget about it until you actually know of other people successfully completing the process, a "major" announcement in the press or better still, when we post about it here on DR1.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:42 PM
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i don't think it is meant to replace any existing documents like the residency or cedula.
will be additional,
IF it comes to life.
we will hear about that here on the bord right away.
first that gubmin has to figure out themselves what it should mean or be.
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:35 AM
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Sounds like another BOHICA Tax to me (Bend Over Here It Comes Again).

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Old 11-13-2008, 08:37 AM
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I just read about the new Biometric ID card for foreigners. Does anyone know how this will work?

Questions that come to mind:

1) Where will the cards be issued? (Hopefully not requiring another trip to Santo Domingo)
The cards will be issued in the same places where today actual Cedulas are being issued to all. Only a few places at a time will be set up to issue the new cards, as the equipment is costly and is still arriving to the country.

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2) How much will it cost?
No price jump will take place; the same regular fees that are imposed to certain people will still stand (until any further notice to the contrary). The majority of them are free to citizens, but some will be required to pay an extra fee...


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3) How often will the expire?
The new biometric cards will carry the same expiration terms as the old Cedulas. The ones issued to non-citizens are not going to carry the same tenure, thus being of a shorter term.

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4) Will the Biometric ID replace the Cedula or Residency card or be an additional card we need to carry? (Hopefully they can figure out a way for it to replace the Residency card.)
The new card will replace the existent Cedula (ID) NOT the residency card!!! One serves the goal to provide a non-citizen ID/permit to establish residency/citizenship in the country; the other provides the day to day goal of a secured ID to perform all tasks that any citizen carries on their daily routine.

The new card is going to allow Police, Banks, Hospitals, Border control, etc... to securely identify and provide the services the carrier needs or requests from them effectively.

The system being deployed envisions that the Police, etc... Will be able to use the card to bring up all the data registered by your ID on any terminal with a color picture of the carrier, making ID theft a lot harder than before.

The new card is phase 1 of a three phase plan!
There'll be a secondary card that will also incorporate a chip that will also carry even more data than the one being deployed and will also become more secured.

The next after that is going to be a smart card, one that will allow the users to carry one ID for identification inside the country and to travel abroad as well.

The card will also allow the user to ride the Metro, pay bills to gov provided services, etc... The data on the cards will be encrypted and only each level of security can be used to access each level of data in the card. In effect, the cards will allow a bank to positively ID you but not have access to any other personal data, other than the basic needed to establish a correct identification. If you were to use the card to travel abroad, the card will be your passport, and providing the customs officials with the exact data they need to allow entry to their territory.

The idea is to carry a multi-national accord to have visas issued electronically to DR's nationals. The date of entry will be recorded in the port of entry and the data will never be compromised as such.

The passenger on a plane will be pre-flagged by their point of entry even before the plane lands at the destination!

The phase 3 of the card is being actively negotiated and followed in compliance with Interpol and other world agencies as well.

The DR’s phase 3 IDs will be encrypted not only in Spanish but every single language that our country is going to have an electronic agreement with. In any case of emergency the carrier will be assured efficient services when they need them.

Phase 1 is actually called the "depuration" phase...
Here once implemented we'll know where we stand and where we need to go after that...

There's also a big work being done to create a law to collect DNA from all persons incarcerated (after sentencing prior) and those arrested by the Police. We'll create a criminal DNA database that will allow Law enforcement to ID any person effectively and properly. The aim is to preclude any ID tampering by criminals that are caught with fraudulent IDs or lacking any ID as well...
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Thanks for the info Pichardo - keep us posted!
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:21 AM
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It's all part of the New World Order...are they going to put terminals in all the police vehicles like in most of the USA? If we're lucky it won't work... like a lot of things in the DR.

I can hear it now:
"Adonde esta su papeles? Quiero su papeles! Dame lo! Papeles o preso!"
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:38 AM
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It's all part of the New World Order...are they going to put terminals in all the police vehicles like in most of the USA? If we're lucky it won't work... like a lot of things in the DR.

I can hear it now:
"Adonde esta su papeles? Quiero su papeles! Dame lo! Papeles o preso!"
Yep!

I have no doubt it will go the same way of the breathalyzers, speed cameras and those useless Brazilian planes they just approved.

Dominicans need to start opening their eyes....
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:47 AM
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Default Biometric ID - the new Cedula and more

Thanks Pichardo for the explanation. Fortunately it won't be a "third" card for us to carry, but rather a "replacement and more" for the current Cedula. Unfortunately periodic trips to Santo Domingo for foreigners will still be necessary to obtain and renew this new card. ARGH, but so be it.

It appears that the original report of a Biometric ID card for foreigners is incorrect in that this card will be for all "residents" including citizens and foreigners legally living in the DR.

I find it odd that the information that I am a foreign resident in the DR cannot also be handled in this "all in one new magic wonder card" so we would actually not need separate residency cards, but so be it. I suppose that certain bureaucracies must be maintained.

While I do not like the fact of "big brother" watching, I have been a victim if Identity Theft several times and I understand how such a card could help prevent that.

For foreign residents, I don't expect this card will act as a replacement for our passports, but that the card would be a Dominican Citizen's passport, correct?
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