relationship rights?

[J D Sauser]

First some technical terms:

Tiguere / Tiguera:
In Dominican it means "really intelligent, wise and super duper smart".
In our terms it simply means "stupid, brain dead".

Now, there is that quote which says: "Never argue with somebody stupid, because they will first bring you down to their level and then beat you there with their experience!"

And that is what makes the Tigueres/Tigueras believe that Gringo/a universally stands for "Palomo/a".

Now, back to the subject.
Tiguere fathering a child to the Tiguera. He can't possibly take responsibility for it - he and his friends and yes, even the Tigueras could get under the impression that he has become a Palomo. Then, taking responsibillity is not really a typical Dominican trait.
The Tiguera then, not to feel had (which she is consistently, being a hooker) hooks up with the Tiguere father(s) and seeks out Palomos to pay for their breed, so they feel real smart together.
This would in general all seem to be a better option then sending the Tiguere (pobre angelito) to the fiscal, judge to be sentenced to pay (he has nothing) or wait in jail. Nobody sees an interest in that, not even the fical or judge as they can't milk the idiot either. It makes things look back in the hood, "his" sisters after all may be her friends too and likely to turn into fierce enemies with long and sharp finger nails just waiting to do some custom engraving on her face.

The Dominicans who get to pay, are the once with money.... the ones who knocked up their little "affair" on the side, unless they are too poweful, so that she can rightfully feel threathened.

Now, all this should NOT mislead Gringos to believe they get the same privileges. They WILL be milked to the fullest extent of the law and beyond, not just by the Tiguera and her Tiguere marridos (the once introduced as "brothers") and siblings but by the Dominican legal "system" and quite possibly by the Gringo's lawyer too.
The arm of the law can even reach into the Gringo's home country like the US. We've seen reports of people who got visited at home or their work place by their home country's "law" for not being responsible for some alleged breed down in the Caribbean.


... J-D.

[SH6811]

Wow this thread has drifted way off topic...folks I originally posted a legitimate question I had in hopes of getting some simple and straight-forward advice, which I did until the thread drifted into a series of personal opinions and accusations flowing back and forth. Please can we just keep it to its original purpose...that being "legal" type information. Thank you in advance.

[MikeFisher]

every operation and medication has some sideeffects,
they can all be taken positive,
means there's coming up interetsing info.
Mike

[DRICK1274]

Originally Posted by badpiece33

Hes not looking to shirk his responsibilities, he is merely trying to make sure he doesnt get taken to the cleaners by some women.

Know the rules before you play the game.

[Fabio J. Guzman]

Originally Posted by MikeFisher

great info like always, Fabio, thanks.

interesting to read that lower courts tend to go the other way but finally get overruled again by the supreme court, sounds like a wast of courthours.

is there no time period when a not married couple would then on count as a married couple?
just curious.
thanks
Mike

Judges in lower courts are younger and more willing to interpret the law as circumstances develop. Supreme Court judges are older and more respectful of the letter of the law.

For community property purposes, there is no time period after which a couple would be considered married. The Supreme Court has said that they have to be married. Period.

[SH6811]

Mr. Guzman,

Can you please explain to me how it is possible for a "fiscal" to make a judgement against a man for support without going through the court process?

NOTE: I'm NOT refering to child support, but rather support for the (unmarried) woman seperate from the child.

I thank you in advance for your time...

[MikeFisher]

Originally Posted by SH6811

Mr. Guzman,

Can you please explain to me how it is possible for a "fiscal" to make a judgement against a man for support without going through the court process?

NOTE: I'm NOT refering to child support, but rather support for the (unmarried) woman seperate from the child.

I thank you in advance for your time...

UNMARRIED,
from my simple understanding there is no support for the lady if she was not married with the guy.
there is only child support,
no Novia-support.
Mike

[SH6811]

Thank you, that is the reason for my question. How is it then possible for a woman to talk to the local Fiscal in order to obtain support for which she supposedly is not entitled?

[Fabio J. Guzman]

There is no legal basis for a "fiscal" to do this.

What I have seen happen is that the woman files a complaint against her companion or threatens to file a complaint alleging she has been beaten, etc., goes to the "fiscal", and then as a kind of irregular "settlement" the man is forced to give money in exchange for the withdrawal of the complaint.

[SH6811]

Thank you Mr. Guzman for your reply. How then is it possible to defend against such an act? Is it possible to simply state the irregularity with Dominican law and ignore the threat?

I have heard stories in the past where a man was forced to pay significant amounts of money based upon (solely) such acusastions...but how then do they allow this to happen if it is not consistent with Dominican law?

Once again thank you in advance.