Age of consent issues

[Expat13]

Originally Posted by graywolf001

Ok- I thought the heading of this section being 'LEGAL', such legal issues would be the subject of discussion.
I was sadly mistaken.
If anyone has a LEGAL opinion - as opposed to unrequested holier-than-thou moral exhortations - to contribute, I shall be grateful.
All others please hold your fire.
Many thanks.

It looks like the OP has vacated this thread. Hopefully its not as bad as it sounds

[graywolf001]

OP has not vacated anything, but regrettably very little of substance is being presented. Instead moral zealots feel obliged to hurl insults knowing next to nothing about the specifics of the case (among other small details that my fiancee is turning 17 in the near future, and that we're planning to get married).
To each his own - I hope they're happy.

[yess]

yea but how old are you?
and when is the wedding?

ain't nobody happy about the predators hanging outside the schoolyard fence

[margaret]

Yikes, I hope he isn't 70!

OkCupid.com: GrayFox100 / 67 / m / straight / Ormond Beach, Florida

[minerva_feliz]

Originally Posted by graywolf001

OP has not vacated anything, but regrettably very little of substance is being presented. Instead moral zealots feel obliged to hurl insults knowing next to nothing about the specifics of the case (among other small details that my fiancee is turning 17 in the near future, and that we're planning to get married).
To each his own - I hope they're happy.

I would like to dedicate a song to the OP and his menor. It's called "Cuarenta y Veinte" by José José:

Mentiras son todas mentiras
Cosas que dice la gente
Decir que este amor es prohibido
Que tengo cuarenta y tu veinte.

Que yo soy atono en tu vida
Y tu eres dulce primavera
No saben que guardo un verano
Que cuando te miro me quema.

Cuarenta y veinte
Cuarenta y veinte
Es el amor lo que importa y no
Lo que diga la gente.

Cuarenta y veinte
Cuarenta y veinte
Toma mi mano
Camina conmigo
Mirando de frente.

No importa que a mi no me entiendan
Y que por lo bajo comenten
Que exsiste una gran diferencia
Que tengo cuarenta y tu veinte

Que tengo muchas vivencias
Y tu tienes tanta inocencia
No saben que nuestro secreto
Es tu juventud y mi experiencia.

Cuarenta y veinte
Cuarenta y veinte
Es el amor lo que importa y no
Lo que diga la gente.

Cuarenta y veinte
Cuarenta y veinte
Toma mi mano
Camina conmigo
Mirando de frente.

........................................

It makes me gag every time I listen to it as I imagine shameless older men taking advantage of the level of psychological development and socio-economic situation of these young girls who aren't even out of high school who maybe even think they are actually "in love" with the creep.

How old are you anyway? I hope at least under 25.

[pedrochemical]

Originally Posted by graywolf001

OP has not vacated anything, but regrettably very little of substance is being presented. Instead moral zealots feel obliged to hurl insults knowing next to nothing about the specifics of the case (among other small details that my fiancee is turning 17 in the near future, and that we're planning to get married).
To each his own - I hope they're happy.

I have pretty flexible morals myself, but Dude, your fiance is 16?
I hope you are young 20s at the most - otherwise that is questionable behavior by almost any standards.

Am I being a zealot?
I think not.
Are you having sex with an under age girl?
Looks like it.


So don't come around here being rude to people - SonnyJim!

When you have kids of your own, you will understand.

[NotLurking]

This is the legal forum! Is it not? The OP asked a valid legal question. He should receive an answer. Anyway...

Originally Posted by graywolf001

Age of consent in DR seems to be 18. However, there also seems to exist the possibility of the mother authorizing her 16 year old daughter's amorous relationship with an adult foreigner.
Even if the DR seems relatively relaxed in these issues, does anyone know what exactly the legal situation is in this respect and
what has to be done to avoid ending in the DR's equivalent of San Quentin?
Thank you.

The age of consent for females with respect to matrimony in DR is 15. However, the parents of the adolescent must also give their consent for her to be able to marry.

Codigo Civil de la Republica Dominicana

TÍTULO V:
DEL MATRIMONIO
CAPÍTULO I:
De las cualidades y condiciones necesarias para poder contraer matrimonio

Art. 144.- El hombre, antes de los dieciocho años cumplidos, y
la mujer antes de cumplir los quince años no pueden contraer
matrimonio.

Art. 145.- Sin embargo, el Gobierno puede, por motivos graves,
conceder dispensas de edad.

Art. 146.- No existe el matrimonio cuando no hay consentimiento.

Art. 147.- No se puede contraer segundo matrimonio antes de
la disolución del primero.

Art. 148.- El hijo que no tenga veinticinco años cumplidos, y la
hija que no haya cumplido los veintiuno, no pueden contraer
matrimonio sin el consentimiento de sus padres.

Source: http://www.suprema.gov.do/codigos/CodigoCivil.pdf

Note: you may also want to have a look at law #136-03:
Código para el Sistema de Protección y los Derechos Fundamentales de Niños, Niñas y Adolescentes.
http://www.procuraduria.gov.do/PGR.N...Y%20136-06.pdf


NotLurking

[graywolf001]

Thanks, NotLurking. I'm pleased to discover that this forum is not exclusively populated by self-appointed moral experts, who believe they can avoid focusing on their own faults and inconsistencies by lecturing the rest of humanity on what's right and wrong.

[Big Dan]

People only lecture because they can't see you in person.

The looks you get by Dominicans, tourists, and expats while you and your wise companion enjoy a night on the town speak far more than any word written here.

Tell me. What do you do when you have a night out on the town? Do you discuss politics? Movies? What is your circle of friends?

Never mind the autumn/spring relationship. It sounds more like a Depends/Pampers relationship to me.

Since you are narcissistic it really doesn't matter anyway. Right?

[El_Uruguayo]

Asides from the OPs situation, it's still a valid question. I girl a dated a couple of times had lied about her age to me. She told me she was 20, when she had just turned 17 - I was 25 at the time. We didn't have sex, but that's not to say that I could have found myself in a sticky situation with a "minor", unintentionally, but you know. It can be hard to discern age at first, by the way women dress, and also the fact that they will lie about their age. Or should I say always lie, hehe, when they're younger they want to be older, when older they want to be younger.