Spoiled kids, faulty parents.

AZB · #1 01-20-2005, 10:21 AM

What I saw last night in Supermarket Nacional was unbelievable. A young kids around 12 yrs old was needlessly touching 800 pesos special edition Vodka bottle on the rack and then accidently drops it, shattering into small pieces. The 800 pesos bottle was wasted yet the mom didn't even admonish the kid. Simply took him away as though he dropped a plastic water bottle. She was not even noticibly upset or anything. I was amazed to see that she didn't even attempt to pay for the broken bottle. then what really made me upset was that mom was seen busy shopping and the same kid was seen playing with glass juice bottles in another location of the store.
When will the parents take control of their own kids and start acting like parents, or better yet, start raising kids who would act in a more responsible way. I have seen the same attitude in all over the world, Pakistan, USA and DR etc. If that were my kid, i would have given him a smack on his face. Only then he would think twice before touching anything which doesn't belong to him.
AZB

P.S: an ocean spray 1 gallon cranberry-apple juice for 464 pesos???? That is like 15 dollars for a gallon. Holly cow, the prices have gone up insanely in stores here.

Lesley D · #2 01-20-2005, 10:28 AM

AZB,

I agree with you 100% on this issue. The problem is that kids (all over the world) have more rights than the parents until they commit a punishable crime and then everyone points the finger at the parents for not doing their job. However, today's laws don't allow parents to act like parents. Sometimes I think the "children" are the parents. Some kind of discipline was required in this case. Once again I agree with you and the non-reaction of the parent does make one wonder. What role do parents really serve today??!!

-Lesley D-

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Originally Posted by AZB

What I saw last night in Supermarket Nacional was unbelievable. A young kids around 12 yrs old was needlessly touching 800 pesos special edition Vodka bottle on the rack and then accidently drops it, shattering into small pieces. The 800 pesos bottle was wasted yet the mom didn't even admonish the kid. Simply took him away as though he dropped a plastic water bottle. She was not even noticibly upset or anything. I was amazed to see that she didn't even attempt to pay for the broken bottle. then what really made me upset was that mom was seen busy shopping and the same kid was seen playing with glass juice bottles in another location of the store.
When will the parents take control of their own kids and start acting like parents, or better yet, start raising kids who would act in a more responsible way. I have seen the same attitude in all over the world, Pakistan, USA and DR etc. If that were my kid, i would have given him a smack on his face. Only then he would think twice before touching anything which doesn't belong to him.
AZB

P.S: an ocean spray 1 gallon cranberry-apple juice for 464 pesos???? That is like 15 dollars for a gallon. Holly cow, the prices have gone up insanely in stores here.

easygoin · #3 01-20-2005, 10:44 AM

pinch that kids hands off and shoot the mother,problem solved.

Mirador · #4 01-20-2005, 11:18 AM

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pinch that kids hands off and shoot the mother,problem solved.

When my wife Altagracia complained to me that our three-year-old Aroa was getting out of hand, that he did not obey her anymore, I gave her a small stun gun I had purchased more out of curiosity at a local Armory. I told her to show it to Aroa while pressing the button to make it spark, while warning him that she was willing to use it. However, I asked her to never actually use it against the child. Then one day she got carried away and gave Aroa a small jolt. The next time she threatened Aroa with the stun gun, he taunted her and dared her to zap him. As a father, I find Aroa very easy to reason with, however, I've noticed he respects more his older brother Alan (20 yrs) than his mother or myself.

Mirador

AnnaC · #5 01-20-2005, 11:27 AM

OMG there's better ways than shooting a child. That child will never trust to tell you anything in the future. Of course he respects his brother he's never shot him. One extreme to another. Hey your next child maybe you can spray water on them like you do to kittens.

easygoin · #6 01-20-2005, 11:35 AM

thats the tough thing about mom and dad,children will try to push you to see how far they can push you,his brother is his best buddy in the world so he will listen to him.

Criss Colon · #7 01-20-2005, 12:05 PM

First,AZB, I too agree with you,but not 100%.No need to use physical punishment.That only teaches children to respond in the same way.We have all seen those mothers sslapping their children while at the same time telling them to,"Stop Hitting Your Sister!
Physical punishment teaches children to be afraid,and consequently hide their bad behavior to avoid punishment by lying and being deceptive.Ask me,I know!!"And before anyone "starts",I am Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from a liberal when it comes to raising children.I believe in discipline,just not "spanking" etc.Taking away the childs "Freedom" , toys,fun things they like to do, is far more effective,humane,and teaches responsibilty,not fear!
Lesley,children ,"All over the World",may have more rights than their parents,but not here.It is still ok to use corporal punishment in the DR.Parents often "Slap,Hit,Punch,and Pinch" their kids here!
Here is the "TYPICAL" Dominican style of parenting.
First,Do Nothing",if that fails,and it always does,YELL at them,and tell them "Pow Pow"! which means that a slap is coming,maybe!Then yell some more.Then tell them to "Go outside"! Out of sight,out of mind!
Then ignore their bad behavior,fighting,screaming,etc.Anything but get up and go to the child and stop the behavior!!!!!If the child makes the mistake of wandering close enough to the parent,a slap on the head or a pinch to the back of the arm is given.But then if the child crys,start hugging and kissing the child,tell them "Ya Ya Ya",and give them something to eat or drink!!!
Dominican "Golden Rule" of Child Rearing....."Never hold a child responsible,so that they will never learn responsibility!!!!
We all can site our own "Horror Story" about Dominican children going wild,while their parents seeming are oblivious to what they are doing,here is "one" of mine.We are dining at "Vesuvio's" on the "Malecon".Two kids about 8 and ten years old,one male,one female,whole family very well dressed,leave their table to look at the large aquarium filled with many exotic fish.Now I can see that the fish tank is a "draw" to the kids,and might let my kids take a look as well.Now for the Dominican part,the kids start to push and shove eachother for the best view of the tank,then they start to yell real loud at each other,everyone in the place can hear them.They stop yelling and pick up "silverware" from an unoccupied table and begin to tap on the glass to get the fish's attencion.The fish don't respond,so they begin to really bang the $hit out of the glass!We are hoping that the glass breaks,but it is too thick,"Damn"!
The waiters are now trying to get the kids to stop,so now the kids are crying!The two parents, who have done nothing but give a few glances at the children during the whole 10 minute adventure,now find the energy to get up go over to the tank,and tell the waiters NOT to bother their children!!!!
I don't want to slap the kids,I want to SLAP the "so-called" parents!!!!!!

If you never bother to "House break" a new puppy,and as it grows older it continues to $hit and Pi$$ in the house,it is NOT the dogs fault,it is the "Masters" fault!!!!!!!
Which brings me to my habitual complaint about what is wrong with the DR.
LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE!!!!!!!!
Be it personal,familial,governmental,or cultural,...
"IT IS NEVER MY/OUR FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!"

Music · #8 01-20-2005, 12:20 PM

Wow a stun gun a bit crazy.
My Mom threatened us with the wooden spoon or slipper back in the day lol and my Dad was the belt but he never used it on us. Times have definatly changed that's for sure but back than my Dad's evil look was enough to make me stop.
Also I wouldn't blame parents sometimes the greatest parents have a terror child so it's hard to say.

Lesley D · #9 01-20-2005, 12:29 PM

Criss,

I hear you and when I say all over the world I will clarify then these so-called "first world nations" . I know very well about discipline all over the Caribbean as a matter of fact. You remind me of incident I witnessed a few years ago in San Juan, PR. I was on the bus and I started to look around at all the women who had small diaper-age children and every Mom had a wooden spoon sticking out of the diaper bag and at first I thought "why does every Mom have a wooden spoon" it was an essential requirement along with the diapers and finally it clicked to me it was for on the spot discipline if the child got out of hand. When I got off the bus a lady was chasing her son (about three years old) who was walking way ahead of her and everyone at the bus stop (including me who had just gotten off) was looking at the child who was about to enter into a construction site. Luckily one of workers saw the boy and blocked his entrance. The mother was so angry (she did not have her wooden spoon) she went to the nearest tree and broke off a branch and right there and then spanked her son. Yo te dije---"mamá no me pegues"--- Yo te dije.... Everyone at the bus stop congratulated her including me. Kids need to listen to their parents. Although to most this may sound cruel but sometimes you just have to do what's necessary. The flip side of this is why didn't she have control over him in the first place? I could see both sides of the issue. Discipline begins at home so children will behave outside the home.

BTW, I was happy that some discipline was given but I would not have used a branch. A good "nalgadita" woud have been sufficient.

-Lesley D-

Danny W · #10 01-20-2005, 12:31 PM

I have 2 grown sons. They are wonderfully respectful and always have been, and I have never hit them, nor has their mother. My Dominican girlfriend has a very well behaved 5 year old. When he misbehaves beyond a certain point, she reaches for her shoe and he immediately falls into line. I've never seen her actually hit him, but judging from his reaction, he must remember ther experience. I think kids are naturally good, and parents do a terriffic job screwing them up. If they are treated with love and respect, and if the parents take the time to explain good from bad, they will be good kids. A little whack now and then isn't the end of the world, as long as the kid knows he is loved. But if parents don't respect others, including their children, neither will the kids. - D