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Old 05-03-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Cost of architect...what is his 6% fee based on????

If you can assist ...please do???

My construction quotation from my builder is as follows
  • materials and labor= $25559.00us
  • builder supervision fee= $2555.00 us
  • seguro social= $1330.00us

My architect has designed this construction job in full! His fee is 6%
My question is 6% of what amount;
  1. Do i calculate the 6% architecture fee and include the builders supervision fee (with the materials and labor fee)?

  2. Do i calculate the 6% architecture fee and include the seguro insurance fee (with the materials and labor fee)?
thank you in advance
m
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:32 AM
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If you can assist ...please do???

My construction quotation from my builder is as follows
  • materials and labor= $25559.00us
  • builder supervision fee= $2555.00 us
  • seguro social= $1330.00us

My architect has designed this construction job in full! His fee is 6%
My question is 6% of what amount;
  1. Do i calculate the 6% architecture fee and include the builders supervision fee (with the materials and labor fee)?

  2. Do i calculate the 6% architecture fee and include the seguro insurance fee (with the materials and labor fee)?
thank you in advance
m
If the estimate is complete you would take 6% of the total. The 6% fee is standard for Architects and is supposed to be 6% of the total cost for construction, but also can be negotiated to a lower rate.

Since the estimate the actual construction will change you should add a "contigency fee" of 10 to 20+ % to the total that you are asking from the bank to handle construction costs increases etc.

Finally, send JRR of DR1 a PM - he may be able to get you a loan and his rates are close to half what any bank here in the DR can offer you.
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Old 05-03-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default it is calculated like this

Direct cost - are the materials and labor
indirect cost- supervision fee, seguro social, administration, etc
you have to calculate the 6% based on direct cost, because all other cost are percentage of the direct cost.
In an estimate you have a subtotal which is the direct cost and after that you have all other charges that almost always are a percentage of the direct cost, those are called Indirect cost.
By the way I was charge a 4.5% by my architect which did a quite good job.
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:07 PM
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If the estimate is complete you would take 6% of the total. The 6% fee is standard for Architects and is supposed to be 6% of the total cost for construction, but also can be negotiated to a lower rate.

Since the estimate the actual construction will change you should add a "contigency fee" of 10 to 20+ % to the total that you are asking from the bank to handle construction costs increases etc.

Finally, send JRR of DR1 a PM - he may be able to get you a loan and his rates are close to half what any bank here in the DR can offer you.

thank you for the first part of your answer. Secondly, and
with respect ..what makes you think i need a loan / i dont remember requesting information on loans ...i actually pay cash for my home/s.
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:10 PM
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Direct cost - are the materials and labor
indirect cost- supervision fee, seguro social, administration, etc
you have to calculate the 6% based on direct cost, because all other cost are percentage of the direct cost.
In an estimate you have a subtotal which is the direct cost and after that you have all other charges that almost always are a percentage of the direct cost, those are called Indirect cost.
By the way I was charge a 4.5% by my architect which did a quite good job.
nydr
Thank you... you have conformed my original thought.
does your architect have email/speak english /phone ... i speak conversational spanish! if he/she does please forward their info on to me
thanks again
m
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Old 05-03-2007, 03:12 PM
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thank you for the first part of your answer. Secondly, and
with respect ..what makes you think i need a loan / i dont remember requesting information on loans ...i actually pay cash for my home/s.
Take no offense pal - just adding that information just in case. I'm happy you can pay with cash and I wish that I were so fortunate.
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:03 AM
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I like the numbers you were given, anyway I could see what you are getting for that amount?
Do you have any sort of file you can send of the plans or drawings?
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:20 PM
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:37 PM
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up to your old tricks again Colon!!!!!!!!...i see now that you are unable to keep your 'colon' shut! Thanks again for your input


Actually, its an addition to my third house ive built here...The area is 80m2!


Thanks again for the mountain of information you provided ill use it soon....NOT!
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:16 PM
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I'm intrigued that architectural fees are still calculated as a percentage. I've been in the construction/development biz all my life, basically, and built stuff in several countries. Haven't paid a percentage fee in many years. It's just about the least logical way to determine the value of professional services...I know, I know. "It's how it's always been, here".

A couple questions, please?

This fee is a percentage of the contractor's original contract amount, before change orders? Or the final cost, complete?

Besides provide plans, what does the architect do for this fee, exactly? Any job supervision? Inspections? Permitting? What else?

I truly am intrigued by this....
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